Discussion:
[AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
joseph marsh
2015-01-13 14:43:04 UTC
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Doing WiFi for a restaurant what would be good for deploying WiFi

Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
Gino Villarini
2015-01-13 14:47:02 UTC
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Meraki



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



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Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
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Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant


Doing WiFi for a restaurant what would be good for deploying WiFi

Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
Super WISP
2015-01-13 14:50:54 UTC
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Hit me offline Joseph to discuss. We have low end and higher end solutions.

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Rory Conaway
2015-01-13 14:51:35 UTC
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Xirrus. More granular packet control.

Rory

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Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:47 AM
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Meraki



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com>
@aeronetpr



From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>>
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Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
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Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant


Doing WiFi for a restaurant what would be good for deploying WiFi

Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
Jaime Solorza
2015-01-13 15:50:49 UTC
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Wyndam in Midland uses UniFi AC and it worked well. The local reservation
casino is implementing it as well after testing Cisco and few others.

Jaime Solorza
On Jan 13, 2015 7:51 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> Xirrus. More granular packet control.
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> Rory
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:47 AM
> *To:* ***@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
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> Meraki
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> Gino A. Villarini
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> President
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> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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> www.aeronetpr.com
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> @aeronetpr
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> *From: *joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> *To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
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> Doing WiFi for a restaurant what would be good for deploying WiFi
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> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
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joseph marsh
2015-01-13 15:53:04 UTC
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Isnt unifi a bitch to set up with software?
On Jan 13, 2015 9:51 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wyndam in Midland uses UniFi AC and it worked well. The local
> reservation casino is implementing it as well after testing Cisco and few
> others.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Jan 13, 2015 7:51 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net> wrote:
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>> Xirrus. More granular packet control.
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>> Rory
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:47 AM
>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
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>> Meraki
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>> Gino A. Villarini
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>> President
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>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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>> www.aeronetpr.com
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>> @aeronetpr
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>> *From: *joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> *To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
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>> Doing WiFi for a restaurant what would be good for deploying WiFi
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>> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
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Cameron Crum
2015-01-13 16:14:36 UTC
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I wonder how much hand off is happening at all in a restaurant?

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Not really? All of the ones I setup I don't recall there being any
> issues... even with the original software releases.
>
> That said, the fast handoff isn't as good as what you're going to get from
> Ruckus or Xirrus.
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> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
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> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:53:04 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Isnt unifi a bitch to set up with software?
> On Jan 13, 2015 9:51 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Wyndam in Midland uses UniFi AC and it worked well. The local
>> reservation casino is implementing it as well after testing Cisco and few
>> others.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Jan 13, 2015 7:51 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Xirrus. More granular packet control.
>>>
>>>
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>>> Rory
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>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:47 AM
>>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Meraki
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>
>>> www.aeronetpr.com
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>>> @aeronetpr
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>> *From: *joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
>>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>>> *To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Doing WiFi for a restaurant what would be good for deploying WiFi
>>>
>>> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>>>
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Caleb Knauer
2015-01-13 16:46:27 UTC
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The only thing I can think of where rapid handoff would be needed in a
restaurant is for mobile POS terminals if the wait staff is entering orders
and payments and such at the table via tablet. Otherwise anything that
matters (to the business) is going to be fixed or isn't
super-duper-realtime critical. Unifi has a zero-handoff roaming feature
but you need to take into account the design restraints.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cameron Crum <***@wispmon.com> wrote:

> I wonder how much hand off is happening at all in a restaurant?
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Not really? All of the ones I setup I don't recall there being any
>> issues... even with the original software releases.
>>
>> That said, the fast handoff isn't as good as what you're going to get
>> from Ruckus or Xirrus.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:53:04 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> Isnt unifi a bitch to set up with software?
>> On Jan 13, 2015 9:51 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <***@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wyndam in Midland uses UniFi AC and it worked well. The local
>>> reservation casino is implementing it as well after testing Cisco and few
>>> others.
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> On Jan 13, 2015 7:51 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Xirrus. More granular packet control.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rory
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>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:47 AM
>>>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meraki
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>
>>>> President
>>>>
>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>
>>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>>>
>>>> @aeronetpr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
>>>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>>>> *To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doing WiFi for a restaurant what would be good for deploying WiFi
>>>>
>>>> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
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Bill Prince
2015-01-13 15:53:12 UTC
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Gino,

What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have you tried?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Meraki
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Doing WiFi for a restaurant what would be good for deploying WiFi
>
> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>
Gino Villarini
2015-01-13 15:59:08 UTC
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Mostly like the units, great feature sets all managed by cloud.

If you manage multiple networks, you can do it all from a centralized dashboard. You can make changes to a single AP o to the whole network on a fly. Lots of billing/authentication options. Firewall and QOS also a plus with very granular application control (layer 7)

I only dislike the premiun price…



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Bill Prince <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 11:53 AM
To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Gino,

What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have you tried?


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>



On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
Meraki



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Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant


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Bill Prince
2015-01-13 16:01:48 UTC
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Well... They are part of Cisco; which might be spelled Ci$co. ;-)

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/13/2015 7:59 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Mostly like the units, great feature sets all managed by cloud.
>
> If you manage multiple networks, you can do it all from a centralized
> dashboard. You can make changes to a single AP o to the whole network
> on a fly. Lots of billing/authentication options. Firewall and QOS
> also a plus with very granular application control (layer 7)
>
> I only dislike the premiun priceᅵ
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
> From: Bill Prince <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 11:53 AM
> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Gino,
>
> What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have you tried?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> Meraki
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> President
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> www.aeronetpr.com ᅵ1ᅵ2ᅵ1ᅵ2
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> Doing WiFi for a restaurantᅵ1ᅵ2ᅵ1ᅵ2ᅵ1ᅵ2 what would be good for
>> deploying WiFiᅵ1ᅵ2
>>
>> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>>
>
Cameron Crum
2015-01-13 16:01:53 UTC
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Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for teachers,
one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the payments stuff of
course and access is still controlled by a CCR behind it all, but it has
not even had so much as a hiccup in over a year since it went in. This is
not even the enterprise version as it was not out yet when I put the system
in.

Cameron

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gino,
>
> What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have you tried?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>
> Meraki
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com ᅵᅵ
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> To: "***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Doing WiFi for a restaurantᅵᅵᅵ what would be good for deploying
> WiFiᅵ
>
> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>
>
>
Jay Weekley
2015-01-13 16:18:47 UTC
Permalink
The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone
feature that doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like
the option of logging in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.

Cameron Crum wrote:
> Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
> school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
> teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
> payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
> behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
> year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
> was not out yet when I put the system in.
>
> Cameron
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Gino,
>
> What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
> you tried?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> Meraki
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> President
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ��
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> Doing WiFi for a restaurant��� what would be good for
>> deploying WiFi�
>>
>> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>>
>
>
Jerry Richardson
2015-01-13 16:19:29 UTC
Permalink
If there is a better value than unifi I don't know what it is.

Jerry Richardson
airCloud Communications

> On Jan 13, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Cameron Crum <***@wispmon.com> wrote:
>
> Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it was not out yet when I put the system in.
>
> Cameron
>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Gino,
>>
>> What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have you tried?
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>> On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>> Meraki
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> President
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> www.aeronetpr.com ᅵᅵ
>>> @aeronetpr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>>> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>>> To: "***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> Doing WiFi for a restaurantᅵᅵᅵ what would be good for deploying WiFiᅵ
>>>
>>> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>>>
>
Josh Baird
2015-01-13 16:20:11 UTC
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But you don't have to have a controller on site. You also can use one
controller for many instances.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Jay Weekley <***@cyberbroadband.net>
wrote:

> The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone feature
> that doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option
> of logging in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>
> Cameron Crum wrote:
>
>> Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
>> school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for teachers,
>> one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the payments stuff of
>> course and access is still controlled by a CCR behind it all, but it has
>> not even had so much as a hiccup in over a year since it went in. This is
>> not even the enterprise version as it was not out yet when I put the system
>> in.
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Gino,
>>
>> What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
>> you tried?
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>
>>> Meraki
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> President
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ᅵᅵ
>>> @aeronetpr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>>> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>>> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>>> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> Doing WiFi for a restaurantᅵᅵᅵ what would be good for
>>> deploying WiFiᅵ
>>>
>>> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Darin Steffl
2015-01-13 16:24:18 UTC
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We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really
well and at a great price as well.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the
> Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.
>
> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday.
> Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly
> for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).
>
> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>
> Daniel White – Managing Director
> SAF North America LLC
>
> Cell: (303) 746-3590
> Skype: danieldwhite
> ***@saftehnika.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
> > To: ***@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> >
> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone
> feature that
> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option of
> logging
> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
> >
> > Cameron Crum wrote:
> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
> > > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
> > >
> > > Cameron
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gino,
> > >
> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
> > > you tried?
> > >
> > > bp
> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> > >
> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> > >> Meraki
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Gino A. Villarini
> > >> President
> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ᅵᅵ
> > >> @aeronetpr
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> > >>
> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantᅵᅵᅵ what would be good for
> > >> deploying WiFiᅵ
> > >>
> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
>


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Gino Villarini
2015-01-13 16:31:23 UTC
Permalink
I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set… problem with reatail locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users… how much time they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night leeches), login mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc… Retail is a different animal… Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed, how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the host restaurant/retail location



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com<mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really well and at a great price as well.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.

Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).

Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell: (303) 746-3590<tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
Skype: danieldwhite
***@saftehnika.com<mailto:***@saftehnika.com>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com<mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
> To: ***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone feature that
> doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option of logging
> in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>
> Cameron Crum wrote:
> > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
> > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
> > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
> > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
> > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
> > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
> > was not out yet when I put the system in.
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>
> > <mailto:***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Gino,
> >
> > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
> > you tried?
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> >> Meraki
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gino A. Villarini
> >> President
> >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> >> www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2
> >> @aeronetpr
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>
> >> <mailto:***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
> >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> >> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> >> To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> >> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> >>
> >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 what would be good for
> >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ž2
> >>
> >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
> >>
> >
> >




--
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Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/>
507-634-WiFi
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Josh Baird
2015-01-13 16:46:21 UTC
Permalink
Has anyone used the CloudTrax stuff? We deployed a few APs recently and
they seem to be working fine as far as I know.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Gino Villarini <***@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with reatail
> locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users
 how much
> time they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night
> leeches), login mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant
> (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different
> animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac
> detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed,
> how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the host
> restaurant/retail location
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
> From: Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com>
> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
> To: "***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really
> well and at a great price as well.
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the
>> Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.
>>
>> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday.
>> Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly
>> for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).
>>
>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>>
>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: (303) 746-3590
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> ***@saftehnika.com
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>> > To: ***@afmug.com
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> >
>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone
>> feature that
>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option
>> of logging
>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>> >
>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>> > >
>> > > Cameron
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Gino,
>> > >
>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
>> > > you tried?
>> > >
>> > > bp
>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> > >
>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> > >> Meraki
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>> > >> President
>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >> @aeronetpr
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> > >>
>> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be good for
>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >>
>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Darin Steffl
> Minnesota WiFi
> www.mnwifi.com
> 507-634-WiFi
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> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>
Rory Conaway
2015-01-13 16:47:39 UTC
Permalink
I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero problems. But you do need a management computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at my house. The only problem is no management tool outside your phone and you have to be onsite. They said they will have something in a few months for that.

Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was me for financial reasons if you simply want to give away free internet.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
To: ***@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with reatail locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users
 how much time they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night leeches), login mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed, how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the host restaurant/retail location



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com>
@aeronetpr



From: Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com<mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really well and at a great price as well.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.

Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).

Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell: (303) 746-3590<tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
Skype: danieldwhite
***@saftehnika.com<mailto:***@saftehnika.com>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com<mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
> To: ***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone feature that
> doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option of logging
> in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>
> Cameron Crum wrote:
> > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
> > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
> > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
> > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
> > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
> > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
> > was not out yet when I put the system in.
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>
> > <mailto:***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Gino,
> >
> > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
> > you tried?
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> >> Meraki
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gino A. Villarini
> >> President
> >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> >> www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
> >> @aeronetpr
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>
> >> <mailto:***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
> >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> >> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> >> To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> >> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> >>
> >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be good for
> >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
> >>
> >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
> >>
> >
> >



--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/>
507-634-WiFi
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Josh Reynolds
2015-01-13 16:50:37 UTC
Permalink
No, super easy. Set a host entry in the router to your aws instance for remote monitoring and control, or use dhcp option 43.

On January 13, 2015 6:53:05 AM AKST, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>Isnt unifi a bitch to set up with software?
>On Jan 13, 2015 9:51 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <***@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Wyndam in Midland uses UniFi AC and it worked well. The local
>> reservation casino is implementing it as well after testing Cisco and
>few
>> others.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Jan 13, 2015 7:51 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net>
>wrote:
>>
>>> Xirrus. More granular packet control.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino
>Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:47 AM
>>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Meraki
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>
>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>>
>>> @aeronetpr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
>>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>>> *To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Doing WiFi for a restaurant what would be good for deploying WiFi
>>>
>>> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>>>
>>

--
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Gino Villarini
2015-01-13 16:50:45 UTC
Permalink
Xclaim web management was recently released.

What they didn't like about Meraki

Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini



On Jan 13, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Rory Conaway <***@triadwireless.net<mailto:***@triadwireless.net>> wrote:

I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero problems. But you do need a management computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at my house. The only problem is no management tool outside your phone and you have to be onsite. They said they will have something in a few months for that.

Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was me for financial reasons if you simply want to give away free internet.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
To: ***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set… problem with reatail locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users… how much time they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night leeches), login mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc… Retail is a different animal… Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed, how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the host restaurant/retail location



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com>
@aeronetpr



From: Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com<mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really well and at a great price as well.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.

Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).

Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell: (303) 746-3590<tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
Skype: danieldwhite
***@saftehnika.com<mailto:***@saftehnika.com>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com<mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
> To: ***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone feature that
> doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option of logging
> in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>
> Cameron Crum wrote:
> > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
> > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
> > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
> > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
> > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
> > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
> > was not out yet when I put the system in.
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>
> > <mailto:***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Gino,
> >
> > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
> > you tried?
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> >> Meraki
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gino A. Villarini
> >> President
> >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> >> www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2
> >> @aeronetpr
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>
> >> <mailto:***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
> >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> >> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> >> To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> >> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> >>
> >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 what would be good for
> >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ž2
> >>
> >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
> >>
> >
> >



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joseph marsh
2015-01-13 16:52:03 UTC
Permalink
So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it and leave. It?
On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going
> to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero problems. But you do
> need a management computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at
> my house. The only problem is no management tool outside your phone and
> you have to be onsite. They said they will have something in a few months
> for that.
>
>
>
> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki with all
> the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was me for financial
> reasons if you simply want to give away free internet.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
> *To:* ***@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>
>
> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with reatail
> locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users
 how much
> time they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night
> leeches), login mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant
> (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different
> animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac
> detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed,
> how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the host
> restaurant/retail location
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> President
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> www.aeronetpr.com
>
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com>
> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
> *To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>
>
> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really
> well and at a great price as well.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the
> Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.
>
> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday.
> Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly
> for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).
>
> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>
> Daniel White – Managing Director
> SAF North America LLC
>
> Cell: (303) 746-3590
> Skype: danieldwhite
> ***@saftehnika.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
> > To: ***@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> >
>
> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone
> feature that
> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option of
> logging
> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
> >
> > Cameron Crum wrote:
> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
> > > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
> > >
> > > Cameron
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gino,
> > >
> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
> > > you tried?
> > >
> > > bp
> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> > >
> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> > >> Meraki
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Gino A. Villarini
> > >> President
> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
> > >> @aeronetpr
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> > >>
> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be good for
> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
> > >>
> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Darin Steffl
>
> Minnesota WiFi
>
> www.mnwifi.com
>
> 507-634-WiFi
>
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> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>
Josh Reynolds
2015-01-13 16:54:43 UTC
Permalink
No remote control options, all setup using a phone at layer 2.

I'm waiting for their cloud controller release.

On January 13, 2015 7:22:56 AM AKST, Daniel White <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the
>Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.
>
>Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday.
>Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded
>(mostly for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).
>
>Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>
>Daniel White – Managing Director
>SAF North America LLC
>
>Cell: (303) 746-3590
>Skype: danieldwhite
>***@saftehnika.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>> To: ***@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone
>feature that
>> doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option
>of logging
>> in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>>
>> Cameron Crum wrote:
>> > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my
>kid's
>> > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
>> > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
>> > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
>> > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over
>a
>> > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as
>it
>> > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>> >
>> > Cameron
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Gino,
>> >
>> > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
>> > you tried?
>> >
>> > bp
>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >
>> > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> >> Meraki
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Gino A. Villarini
>> >> President
>> >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ᅵᅵ
>> >> @aeronetpr
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>> >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> >>
>> >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantᅵᅵᅵ what would be good for
>> >> deploying WiFiᅵ
>> >>
>> >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>> >>
>> >
>> >

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Rory Conaway
2015-01-13 16:55:35 UTC
Permalink
The yearly cost and the cost of replacing out of warranty units. They also didn’t put in enough units and mounted them to the outside of stucco/cylinder block buildings. The UniFi system will pay for itself over 2 years against the Meraki and be more profitable.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:51 AM
To: <***@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Xclaim web management was recently released.

What they didn't like about Meraki

Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini



On Jan 13, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Rory Conaway <***@triadwireless.net<mailto:***@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero problems. But you do need a management computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at my house. The only problem is no management tool outside your phone and you have to be onsite. They said they will have something in a few months for that.

Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was me for financial reasons if you simply want to give away free internet.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
To: ***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with reatail locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users
 how much time they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night leeches), login mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed, how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the host restaurant/retail location



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com>
@aeronetpr



From: Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com<mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really well and at a great price as well.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.

Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).

Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell: (303) 746-3590<tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
Skype: danieldwhite
***@saftehnika.com<mailto:***@saftehnika.com>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com<mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
> To: ***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone feature that
> doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option of logging
> in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>
> Cameron Crum wrote:
> > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
> > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
> > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
> > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
> > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
> > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
> > was not out yet when I put the system in.
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>
> > <mailto:***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Gino,
> >
> > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
> > you tried?
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> >> Meraki
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gino A. Villarini
> >> President
> >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> >> www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
> >> @aeronetpr
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>
> >> <mailto:***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
> >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> >> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> >> To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> >> <mailto:***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> >>
> >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be good for
> >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
> >>
> >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
> >>
> >
> >



--
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Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/>
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Gino Villarini
2015-01-13 16:57:08 UTC
Permalink
Web management was released



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Josh Reynolds <***@spitwspots.com<mailto:***@spitwspots.com>>
Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:54 PM
To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>, "***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>" <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

No remote control options, all setup using a phone at layer 2.

I'm waiting for their cloud controller release.

On January 13, 2015 7:22:56 AM AKST, Daniel White <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:

The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.

Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).

Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell: (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
***@saftehnika.com<mailto:***@saftehnika.com>


-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
To: ***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

The pr

oblem I
have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone feature that
doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option of logging
in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.

Cameron Crum wrote:
Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
was not out yet when I put the system in.

Cameron

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>
<mailto:***@gmail.com>>

;
wrote:

Gino,

What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
you tried?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
Meraki



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2
@aeronetpr



From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>
<mailto:***@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com> <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
To:
"***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com> <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 what would be good for
deploying WiFiï¿1Ž2

Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?




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Josh Reynolds
2015-01-13 17:12:47 UTC
Permalink
Cool, will have to take a look.

On January 13, 2015 7:57:09 AM AKST, Gino Villarini <***@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>Web management was released
>
>
>
>Gino A. Villarini
>President
>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>www.aeronetpr.com
>@aeronetpr
>
>
>
>From: Josh Reynolds <***@spitwspots.com<mailto:***@spitwspots.com>>
>Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>"
><***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:54 PM
>To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>"
><***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>,
>"***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>"
><***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>No remote control options, all setup using a phone at layer 2.
>
>I'm waiting for their cloud controller release.
>
>On January 13, 2015 7:22:56 AM AKST, Daniel White
><***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the
>Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.
>
>Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday.
>Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded
>(mostly for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).
>
>Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>
>Daniel White – Managing Director
>SAF North America LLC
>
>Cell: (303) 746-3590
>Skype: danieldwhite
>***@saftehnika.com<mailto:***@saftehnika.com>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
> To: ***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> The pr
>
> oblem I
>have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone feature that
>doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option
>of logging
> in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>
> Cameron Crum wrote:
> Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
> school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
> teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
> payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
> behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
> year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
> was not out yet when I put the system in.
>
> Cameron
>
>On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince
><***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>
> ;
>wrote:
>
> Gino,
>
> What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
> you tried?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Meraki
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
>From: joseph marsh
><***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com> <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
><***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> To:
>"***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com> <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
><***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be good for
> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>
> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>
>
>
>
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Adam Moffett
2015-01-13 17:17:48 UTC
Permalink
You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual AP's
don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same LAN segment
as the AP's and it will discover them and add them to the network.

You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and then
take it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working without
being able to reach the controller.....but don't do that. If you want to
change anything later you'd have to go back with the same laptop. If
you want to associate the AP's with a different controller you have to
default them.

For a super small deployment I just install the controller software on
the customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of AP's then you include
a $300 PC in the cost estimate.

> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it and leave. It?
>
> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net
> <mailto:***@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
>
> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and
> going to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero
> problems. But you do need a management computer. I have the
> XClaim radio too that I tested at my house. The only problem is
> no management tool outside your phone and you have to be onsite.
> They said they will have something in a few months for that.
>
> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki
> with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was me
> for financial reasons if you simply want to give away free internet.
>
> Rory
>
> *From:*Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
> *To:* ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with
> reatail locations like restaurants is that you need control of the
> users
 how much time they can browse, when the AP will be
> available (avoiding night leeches), login mechanisms, value added
> marketing for the host restaurant (like pop ups every x min with
> advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different animal
 Meraki even
> offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac detected but
> not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed, how
> recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the
> host restaurant/retail location
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> President
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>
> @aeronetpr
>
> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com
> <mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
> *To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing
> really well and at a great price as well.
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment.
> Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type
> price.
>
> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on
> Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly
> loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired
> typically).
>
> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>
> Daniel White – Managing Director
> SAF North America LLC
>
> Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
> Skype: danieldwhite
> ***@saftehnika.com <mailto:***@saftehnika.com>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of
> Jay Weekley
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
> > To:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> >
>
> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone
> feature that
> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the
> option of logging
> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
> >
> > Cameron Crum wrote:
> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in
> my kid's
> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
> > > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in
> over a
> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version
> as it
> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
> > >
> > > Cameron
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince
> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gino,
> > >
> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others
> have
> > > you tried?
> > >
> > > bp
> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> > >
> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> > >> Meraki
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Gino A. Villarini
> > >> President
> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
> > >> @aeronetpr
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> > >>
> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be
> good for
> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
> > >>
> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Darin Steffl
>
> Minnesota WiFi
>
> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>
> 507-634-WiFi
>
> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>
Bill Prince
2015-01-13 17:20:22 UTC
Permalink
Anything special about the controller? Windows, MacOS, Linux? Will the
controller run on a Mikrotik?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/13/2015 9:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual AP's
> don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same LAN segment
> as the AP's and it will discover them and add them to the network.
>
> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and then
> take it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working without
> being able to reach the controller.....but don't do that. If you want
> to change anything later you'd have to go back with the same laptop.
> If you want to associate the AP's with a different controller you have
> to default them.
>
> For a super small deployment I just install the controller software on
> the customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of AP's then you
> include a $300 PC in the cost estimate.
>
>> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it and
>> leave. It?
>>
>> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net
>> <mailto:***@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and
>> going to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero
>> problems. But you do need a management computer. I have the
>> XClaim radio too that I tested at my house. The only problem is
>> no management tool outside your phone and you have to be onsite.
>> They said they will have something in a few months for that.
>>
>> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki
>> with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was me
>> for financial reasons if you simply want to give away free internet.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
>> *To:* ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with
>> reatail locations like restaurants is that you need control of
>> the users
 how much time they can browse, when the AP will be
>> available (avoiding night leeches), login mechanisms, value added
>> marketing for the host restaurant (like pop ups every x min with
>> advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different animal
 Meraki even
>> offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac detected but
>> not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed, how
>> recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the
>> host restaurant/retail location
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com
>> <mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
>> *To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing
>> really well and at a great price as well.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment.
>> Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop
>> type price.
>>
>> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on
>> Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it will be
>> lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc... computers are
>> hardwired typically).
>>
>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>>
>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> ***@saftehnika.com <mailto:***@saftehnika.com>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of
>> Jay Weekley
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>> > To:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> >
>>
>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand
>> alone feature that
>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the
>> option of logging
>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>> >
>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in
>> my kid's
>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in
>> over a
>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise
>> version as it
>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>> > >
>> > > Cameron
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince
>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Gino,
>> > >
>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which
>> others have
>> > > you tried?
>> > >
>> > > bp
>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> > >
>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> > >> Meraki
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>> > >> President
>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >> @aeronetpr
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> > >>
>> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be
>> good for
>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >>
>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Darin Steffl
>>
>> Minnesota WiFi
>>
>> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>>
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>
>
Bill Prince
2015-01-13 17:21:10 UTC
Permalink
Sounds like you have to poke a hole in whatever firewalls are in between?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/13/2015 9:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Use one controller on a VM somewhere for all of your managed UniFi
> devices.
>
> That's worked since the beginning.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:17:48 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>
> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual AP's
> don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same LAN segment
> as the AP's and it will discover them and add them to the network.
>
> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and then
> take it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working without
> being able to reach the controller.....but don't do that. If you want
> to change anything later you'd have to go back with the same laptop.
> If you want to associate the AP's with a different controller you have
> to default them.
>
> For a super small deployment I just install the controller software on
> the customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of AP's then you
> include a $300 PC in the cost estimate.
>
> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it and
> leave. It?
>
> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net
> <mailto:***@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
>
> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months
> and going to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero
> problems. But you do need a management computer. I have the
> XClaim radio too that I tested at my house. The only problem
> is no management tool outside your phone and you have to be
> onsite. They said they will have something in a few months
> for that.
>
> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki
> with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was
> me for financial reasons if you simply want to give away free
> internet.
>
> Rory
>
> *From:*Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
> *To:* ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with
> reatail locations like restaurants is that you need control of
> the users
 how much time they can browse, when the AP will be
> available (avoiding night leeches), login mechanisms, value
> added marketing for the host restaurant (like pop ups every x
> min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different animal

> Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac
> detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long
> they stayed, how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very
> extensive reports for the host restaurant/retail location
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> President
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>
> @aeronetpr
>
> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com
> <mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
> *To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be
> performing really well and at a great price as well.
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White
> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment.
> Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop
> type price.
>
> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it
> on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it will be
> lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc... computers are
> hardwired typically).
>
> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>
> Daniel White – Managing Director
> SAF North America LLC
>
> Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
> Skype: danieldwhite
> ***@saftehnika.com <mailto:***@saftehnika.com>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On Behalf
> Of Jay Weekley
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
> > To:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> >
>
> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone feature that
> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like
> the option of logging
> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
> >
> > Cameron Crum wrote:
> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them
> in my kid's
> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't
> use the
> > > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by
> a CCR
> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup
> in over a
> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise
> version as it
> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
> > >
> > > Cameron
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince
> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gino,
> > >
> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which
> others have
> > > you tried?
> > >
> > > bp
> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> > >
> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> > >> Meraki
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Gino A. Villarini
> > >> President
> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
> > >> @aeronetpr
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> > >>
> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would
> be good for
> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
> > >>
> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Darin Steffl
>
> Minnesota WiFi
>
> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>
> 507-634-WiFi
>
> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>
>
>
joseph marsh
2015-01-13 17:21:37 UTC
Permalink
If u use unifi I have a tower not far from this restaurant and may put a
PC there

Or put one on site and do remote desktop to my office
On Jan 13, 2015 11:18 AM, "Adam Moffett" <***@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual AP's
> don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same LAN segment as
> the AP's and it will discover them and add them to the network.
>
> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and then take
> it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working without being able
> to reach the controller.....but don't do that. If you want to change
> anything later you'd have to go back with the same laptop. If you want to
> associate the AP's with a different controller you have to default them.
>
> For a super small deployment I just install the controller software on the
> customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of AP's then you include a $300
> PC in the cost estimate.
>
> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it and leave.
> It?
> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going
>> to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero problems. But you do
>> need a management computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at
>> my house. The only problem is no management tool outside your phone and
>> you have to be onsite. They said they will have something in a few months
>> for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki with all
>> the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was me for financial
>> reasons if you simply want to give away free internet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>>
>> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with reatail
>> locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users
 how much
>> time they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night
>> leeches), login mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant
>> (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different
>> animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac
>> detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed,
>> how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the host
>> restaurant/retail location
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
>> *To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>>
>> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really
>> well and at a great price as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the
>> Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.
>>
>> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday.
>> Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly
>> for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).
>>
>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>>
>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: (303) 746-3590
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> ***@saftehnika.com
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>> > To: ***@afmug.com
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> >
>>
>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone
>> feature that
>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option
>> of logging
>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>> >
>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>> > >
>> > > Cameron
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Gino,
>> > >
>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
>> > > you tried?
>> > >
>> > > bp
>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> > >
>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> > >> Meraki
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>> > >> President
>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >> @aeronetpr
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> > >>
>> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be good for
>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >>
>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Darin Steffl
>>
>> Minnesota WiFi
>>
>> www.mnwifi.com
>>
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>
>
>
Josh Reynolds
2015-01-13 17:25:47 UTC
Permalink
UniFi communicates out (the devices) to establish an SSL tunnel for communication. No holes would need to be poked on the client site.

This product has been out for like three years and is dirt cheap, how have you guys not used it? :)

On January 13, 2015 8:21:11 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>Sounds like you have to poke a hole in whatever firewalls are in
>between?
>
>bp
><part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>On 1/13/2015 9:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> Use one controller on a VM somewhere for all of your managed UniFi
>> devices.
>>
>> That's worked since the beginning.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
><https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
>>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <***@gmail.com>
>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:17:48 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual
>AP's
>> don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same LAN
>segment
>> as the AP's and it will discover them and add them to the network.
>>
>> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and then
>
>> take it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working without
>> being able to reach the controller.....but don't do that. If you
>want
>> to change anything later you'd have to go back with the same laptop.
>> If you want to associate the AP's with a different controller you
>have
>> to default them.
>>
>> For a super small deployment I just install the controller software
>on
>> the customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of AP's then you
>> include a $300 PC in the cost estimate.
>>
>> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it and
>> leave. It?
>>
>> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net
>> <mailto:***@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months
>> and going to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero
>> problems. But you do need a management computer. I have the
>> XClaim radio too that I tested at my house. The only problem
>> is no management tool outside your phone and you have to be
>> onsite. They said they will have something in a few months
>> for that.
>>
>> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as
>Meraki
>> with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it
>was
>> me for financial reasons if you simply want to give away free
>> internet.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
>> *To:* ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with
>> reatail locations like restaurants is that you need control
>of
>> the users
 how much time they can browse, when the AP will be
>> available (avoiding night leeches), login mechanisms, value
>> added marketing for the host restaurant (like pop ups every x
>> min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different animal

>> Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys(
>mac
>> detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long
>> they stayed, how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very
>> extensive reports for the host restaurant/retail location
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com
>> <mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
><***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
>> *To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be
>> performing really well and at a great price as well.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White
>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of
>environment.
>> Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop
>> type price.
>>
>> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it
>> on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it will be
>> lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc... computers are
>> hardwired typically).
>>
>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>>
>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> ***@saftehnika.com
><mailto:***@saftehnika.com>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
><mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On Behalf
>> Of Jay Weekley
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>> > To:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> >
>>
>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand
>alone feature that
>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like
>> the option of logging
>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>> >
>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of
>them
>> in my kid's
>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks,
>one for
>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't
>> use the
>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled
>by
>> a CCR
>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a
>hiccup
>> in over a
>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise
>> version as it
>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>> > >
>> > > Cameron
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince
>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com
><mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Gino,
>> > >
>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which
>> others have
>> > > you tried?
>> > >
>> > > bp
>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> > >
>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> > >> Meraki
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>> > >> President
>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >> @aeronetpr
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> > >>
>> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what
>would
>> be good for
>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >>
>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Darin Steffl
>>
>> Minnesota WiFi
>>
>> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>>
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>
>>
>>

--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Bill Prince
2015-01-13 17:26:10 UTC
Permalink
So if your controller is running on a VM in the cloud, and the unify
box(es) is/are behind NAT, how does the controller reach through the
NAT? Or do the unify box(es) reach out?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/13/2015 9:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Windows and Linux. Not sure about Mac. No, it won't run on Mikrotik.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Bill Prince" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:20:22 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Anything special about the controller? Windows, MacOS, Linux? Will
> the controller run on a Mikrotik?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/13/2015 9:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
>
> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual
> AP's don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same
> LAN segment as the AP's and it will discover them and add them to
> the network.
>
> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and
> then take it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working
> without being able to reach the controller.....but don't do that.
> If you want to change anything later you'd have to go back with
> the same laptop. If you want to associate the AP's with a
> different controller you have to default them.
>
> For a super small deployment I just install the controller
> software on the customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of
> AP's then you include a $300 PC in the cost estimate.
>
> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it
> and leave. It?
>
> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway"
> <***@triadwireless.net <mailto:***@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
>
> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple
> months and going to UniFi. We have a installations with
> them, zero problems. But you do need a management
> computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at my
> house. The only problem is no management tool outside
> your phone and you have to be onsite. They said they will
> have something in a few months for that.
>
> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as
> Meraki with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick to
> UniFi if it was me for financial reasons if you simply
> want to give away free internet.
>
> Rory
>
> *From:*Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
> *To:* ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem
> with reatail locations like restaurants is that you need
> control of the users
 how much time they can browse, when
> the AP will be available (avoiding night leeches), login
> mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant
> (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail
> is a different animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics
> of how many passerbys( mac detected but not registered) ,
> users (loged in) with how long they stayed, how
> recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports
> for the host restaurant/retail location
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> President
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>
> @aeronetpr
>
> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com
> <mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
> *To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be
> performing really well and at a great price as well.
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White
> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of
> environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology
> with the coffee shop type price.
>
> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on
> it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it
> will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc...
> computers are hardwired typically).
>
> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>
> Daniel White – Managing Director
> SAF North America LLC
>
> Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
> Skype: danieldwhite
> ***@saftehnika.com
> <mailto:***@saftehnika.com>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On
> Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
> > To:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> >
>
> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone
> feature that
> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would
> like the option of logging
> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
> >
> > Cameron Crum wrote:
> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of
> them in my kid's
> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks,
> one for
> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I
> don't use the
> > > payments stuff of course and access is still
> controlled by a CCR
> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a
> hiccup in over a
> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise
> version as it
> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
> > >
> > > Cameron
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince
> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gino,
> > >
> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and
> which others have
> > > you tried?
> > >
> > > bp
> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> > >
> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> > >> Meraki
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Gino A. Villarini
> > >> President
> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
> > >> @aeronetpr
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> > >>
> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what
> would be good for
> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
> > >>
> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Darin Steffl
>
> Minnesota WiFi
>
> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>
> 507-634-WiFi
>
> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on
> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>
>
>
>
Josh Baird
2015-01-13 17:27:41 UTC
Permalink
Why wouldn't you just host the controller in your datacenter (or cloud) and
then charge for a managed service? No reason to have an on-premise
controller.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Adam Moffett <***@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual AP's
> don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same LAN segment as
> the AP's and it will discover them and add them to the network.
>
> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and then take
> it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working without being able
> to reach the controller.....but don't do that. If you want to change
> anything later you'd have to go back with the same laptop. If you want to
> associate the AP's with a different controller you have to default them.
>
> For a super small deployment I just install the controller software on the
> customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of AP's then you include a $300
> PC in the cost estimate.
>
> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it and leave.
> It?
> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going
>> to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero problems. But you do
>> need a management computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at
>> my house. The only problem is no management tool outside your phone and
>> you have to be onsite. They said they will have something in a few months
>> for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki with all
>> the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was me for financial
>> reasons if you simply want to give away free internet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>>
>> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with reatail
>> locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users
 how much
>> time they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night
>> leeches), login mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant
>> (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different
>> animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac
>> detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed,
>> how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the host
>> restaurant/retail location
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
>> *To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>>
>> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really
>> well and at a great price as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the
>> Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.
>>
>> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday.
>> Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly
>> for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).
>>
>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>>
>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: (303) 746-3590
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> ***@saftehnika.com
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>> > To: ***@afmug.com
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> >
>>
>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone
>> feature that
>>
>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option
>> of logging
>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>> >
>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>> > >
>> > > Cameron
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Gino,
>> > >
>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
>> > > you tried?
>> > >
>> > > bp
>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> > >
>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> > >> Meraki
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>> > >> President
>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >> @aeronetpr
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> > >>
>> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be good for
>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >>
>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Darin Steffl
>>
>> Minnesota WiFi
>>
>> www.mnwifi.com
>>
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>
>
>
David
2015-01-13 17:27:59 UTC
Permalink
Has anyone played with CAPSMAN on the mikrotiks yet?
Going to training in February for it.

On 01/13/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Maybe? I don't typically worry about any of that firewall nonsense. ;-)
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Bill Prince" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:21:10 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Sounds like you have to poke a hole in whatever firewalls are in between?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/13/2015 9:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> Use one controller on a VM somewhere for all of your managed UniFi
> devices.
>
> That's worked since the beginning.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:17:48 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>
> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual
> AP's don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same
> LAN segment as the AP's and it will discover them and add them to
> the network.
>
> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and
> then take it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working
> without being able to reach the controller.....but don't do that.
> If you want to change anything later you'd have to go back with
> the same laptop. If you want to associate the AP's with a
> different controller you have to default them.
>
> For a super small deployment I just install the controller
> software on the customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of
> AP's then you include a $300 PC in the cost estimate.
>
> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it
> and leave. It?
>
> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway"
> <***@triadwireless.net <mailto:***@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
>
> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple
> months and going to UniFi. We have a installations with
> them, zero problems. But you do need a management
> computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at my
> house. The only problem is no management tool outside
> your phone and you have to be onsite. They said they will
> have something in a few months for that.
>
> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as
> Meraki with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick to
> UniFi if it was me for financial reasons if you simply
> want to give away free internet.
>
> Rory
>
> *From:*Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
> *To:* ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem
> with reatail locations like restaurants is that you need
> control of the users
 how much time they can browse, when
> the AP will be available (avoiding night leeches), login
> mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant
> (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail
> is a different animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics
> of how many passerbys( mac detected but not registered) ,
> users (loged in) with how long they stayed, how
> recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports
> for the host restaurant/retail location
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> President
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>
> @aeronetpr
>
> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com
> <mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
> *To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be
> performing really well and at a great price as well.
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White
> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of
> environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology
> with the coffee shop type price.
>
> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on
> it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it
> will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc...
> computers are hardwired typically).
>
> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>
> Daniel White – Managing Director
> SAF North America LLC
>
> Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
> Skype: danieldwhite
> ***@saftehnika.com
> <mailto:***@saftehnika.com>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On
> Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
> > To:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> >
>
> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand
> alone feature that
> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would
> like the option of logging
> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
> >
> > Cameron Crum wrote:
> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of
> them in my kid's
> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks,
> one for
> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I
> don't use the
> > > payments stuff of course and access is still
> controlled by a CCR
> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a
> hiccup in over a
> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise
> version as it
> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
> > >
> > > Cameron
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince
> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gino,
> > >
> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and
> which others have
> > > you tried?
> > >
> > > bp
> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> > >
> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> > >> Meraki
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Gino A. Villarini
> > >> President
> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
> > >> @aeronetpr
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com
> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> > >>
> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what
> would be good for
> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
> > >>
> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Darin Steffl
>
> Minnesota WiFi
>
> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>
> 507-634-WiFi
>
> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on
> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>
>
>
>
>
Bill Prince
2015-01-13 17:28:17 UTC
Permalink
We don't do much inside a customer's network. Almost zero in fact. We
leave customer internal network stuff to people that do that for a living.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/13/2015 9:25 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> UniFi communicates out (the devices) to establish an SSL tunnel for
> communication. No holes would need to be poked on the client site.
>
> This product has been out for like three years and is dirt cheap, how
> have you guys not used it? :)
>
> On January 13, 2015 8:21:11 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Sounds like you have to poke a hole in whatever firewalls are in
> between?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/13/2015 9:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> Use one controller on a VM somewhere for all of your managed
>> UniFi devices.
>>
>> That's worked since the beginning.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <***@gmail.com>
>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:17:48 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual
>> AP's don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same
>> LAN segment as the AP's and it will discover them and add them to
>> the network.
>>
>> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and
>> then take it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working
>> without being able to reach the controller.....but don't do
>> that. If you want to change anything later you'd have to go back
>> with the same laptop. If you want to associate the AP's with a
>> different controller you have to default them.
>>
>> For a super small deployment I just install the controller
>> software on the customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of
>> AP's then you include a $300 PC in the cost estimate.
>>
>> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it
>> and leave. It?
>>
>> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway"
>> <***@triadwireless.net <mailto:***@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple
>> months and going to UniFi. We have a installations with
>> them, zero problems. But you do need a management
>> computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at
>> my house. The only problem is no management tool outside
>> your phone and you have to be onsite. They said they
>> will have something in a few months for that.
>>
>> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as
>> Meraki with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick to
>> UniFi if it was me for financial reasons if you simply
>> want to give away free internet.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
>> *To:* ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem
>> with reatail locations like restaurants is that you need
>> control of the users
 how much time they can browse, when
>> the AP will be available (avoiding night leeches), login
>> mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant
>> (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail
>> is a different animal
 Meraki even offers visit
>> statistics of how many passerbys( mac detected but not
>> registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed,
>> how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive
>> reports for the host restaurant/retail location
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com
>> <mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
>> *To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be
>> performing really well and at a great price as well.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White
>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of
>> environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology
>> with the coffee shop type price.
>>
>> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on
>> it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it
>> will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc...
>> computers are hardwired typically).
>>
>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>>
>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> ***@saftehnika.com
>> <mailto:***@saftehnika.com>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On
>> Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>> > To:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> >
>>
>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand
>> alone feature that
>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would
>> like the option of logging
>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>> >
>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of
>> them in my kid's
>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate
>> networks, one for
>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I
>> don't use the
>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still
>> controlled by a CCR
>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a
>> hiccup in over a
>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the
>> enterprise version as it
>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>> > >
>> > > Cameron
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince
>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Gino,
>> > >
>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and
>> which others have
>> > > you tried?
>> > >
>> > > bp
>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> > >
>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> > >> Meraki
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>> > >> President
>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >> @aeronetpr
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>"
>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>"
>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> > >>
>> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what
>> would be good for
>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >>
>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Darin Steffl
>>
>> Minnesota WiFi
>>
>> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>>
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on
>> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Caleb Knauer
2015-01-13 17:29:02 UTC
Permalink
The UAP phone home and establish the connection. No poking needed. All
encrypted.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> So if your controller is running on a VM in the cloud, and the unify
> box(es) is/are behind NAT, how does the controller reach through the NAT?
> Or do the unify box(es) reach out?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 1/13/2015 9:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> Windows and Linux. Not sure about Mac. No, it won't run on Mikrotik.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Bill Prince" <***@gmail.com> <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:20:22 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Anything special about the controller? Windows, MacOS, Linux? Will the
> controller run on a Mikrotik?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 1/13/2015 9:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
>
> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual AP's
> don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same LAN segment as
> the AP's and it will discover them and add them to the network.
>
> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and then take
> it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working without being able
> to reach the controller.....but don't do that. If you want to change
> anything later you'd have to go back with the same laptop. If you want to
> associate the AP's with a different controller you have to default them.
>
> For a super small deployment I just install the controller software on the
> customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of AP's then you include a $300
> PC in the cost estimate.
>
> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it and leave.
> It?
> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going
>> to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero problems. But you do
>> need a management computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at
>> my house. The only problem is no management tool outside your phone and
>> you have to be onsite. They said they will have something in a few months
>> for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki with all
>> the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was me for financial
>> reasons if you simply want to give away free internet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>>
>> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with reatail
>> locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users
 how much
>> time they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night
>> leeches), login mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant
>> (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different
>> animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac
>> detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed,
>> how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the host
>> restaurant/retail location
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
>> *To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>>
>> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really
>> well and at a great price as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the
>> Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.
>>
>> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday.
>> Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly
>> for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).
>>
>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>>
>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: (303) 746-3590
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> ***@saftehnika.com
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>> > To: ***@afmug.com
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> >
>>
>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone
>> feature that
>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option
>> of logging
>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>> >
>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>> > >
>> > > Cameron
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Gino,
>> > >
>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
>> > > you tried?
>> > >
>> > > bp
>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> > >
>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> > >> Meraki
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>> > >> President
>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >> @aeronetpr
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> > >>
>> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be good for
>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >>
>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Darin Steffl
>>
>> Minnesota WiFi
>>
>> www.mnwifi.com
>>
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
Josh Baird
2015-01-13 17:29:18 UTC
Permalink
Several different ways. DNS is one.

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Controller-Installation/UniFi-Layer-3-methods-for-UAP-adoption-and-management/ta-p/455643

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> So if your controller is running on a VM in the cloud, and the unify
> box(es) is/are behind NAT, how does the controller reach through the NAT?
> Or do the unify box(es) reach out?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 1/13/2015 9:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> Windows and Linux. Not sure about Mac. No, it won't run on Mikrotik.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Bill Prince" <***@gmail.com> <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:20:22 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Anything special about the controller? Windows, MacOS, Linux? Will the
> controller run on a Mikrotik?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 1/13/2015 9:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
>
> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual AP's
> don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same LAN segment as
> the AP's and it will discover them and add them to the network.
>
> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and then take
> it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working without being able
> to reach the controller.....but don't do that. If you want to change
> anything later you'd have to go back with the same laptop. If you want to
> associate the AP's with a different controller you have to default them.
>
> For a super small deployment I just install the controller software on the
> customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of AP's then you include a $300
> PC in the cost estimate.
>
> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it and leave.
> It?
> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going
>> to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero problems. But you do
>> need a management computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at
>> my house. The only problem is no management tool outside your phone and
>> you have to be onsite. They said they will have something in a few months
>> for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki with all
>> the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was me for financial
>> reasons if you simply want to give away free internet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>>
>> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with reatail
>> locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users
 how much
>> time they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night
>> leeches), login mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant
>> (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different
>> animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac
>> detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed,
>> how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the host
>> restaurant/retail location
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
>> *To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>>
>> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really
>> well and at a great price as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the
>> Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.
>>
>> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday.
>> Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly
>> for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).
>>
>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>>
>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: (303) 746-3590
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> ***@saftehnika.com
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>> > To: ***@afmug.com
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> >
>>
>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone
>> feature that
>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option
>> of logging
>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>> >
>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>> > >
>> > > Cameron
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Gino,
>> > >
>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
>> > > you tried?
>> > >
>> > > bp
>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> > >
>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> > >> Meraki
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>> > >> President
>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >> @aeronetpr
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> > >>
>> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be good for
>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >>
>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Darin Steffl
>>
>> Minnesota WiFi
>>
>> www.mnwifi.com
>>
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
Josh Reynolds
2015-01-13 17:29:32 UTC
Permalink
The units reach out to the hostname of "unifi" on boot and attempt to provision. Or via dhcp option 43.

Then you adopt them to the site in the controller (say Billy Bob's Banjos and Burgers), and assign wireless profiles to the devices.

On January 13, 2015 8:26:10 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>So if your controller is running on a VM in the cloud, and the unify
>box(es) is/are behind NAT, how does the controller reach through the
>NAT? Or do the unify box(es) reach out?
>
>bp
><part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>On 1/13/2015 9:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> Windows and Linux. Not sure about Mac. No, it won't run on Mikrotik.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
><https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
>>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From: *"Bill Prince" <***@gmail.com>
>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:20:22 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> Anything special about the controller? Windows, MacOS, Linux? Will
>> the controller run on a Mikrotik?
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 1/13/2015 9:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>
>>
>> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual
>> AP's don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same
>> LAN segment as the AP's and it will discover them and add them to
>> the network.
>>
>> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and
>> then take it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working
>> without being able to reach the controller.....but don't do that.
>
>> If you want to change anything later you'd have to go back with
>> the same laptop. If you want to associate the AP's with a
>> different controller you have to default them.
>>
>> For a super small deployment I just install the controller
>> software on the customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of
>> AP's then you include a $300 PC in the cost estimate.
>>
>> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it
>> and leave. It?
>>
>> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway"
>> <***@triadwireless.net <mailto:***@triadwireless.net>>
>wrote:
>>
>> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple
>> months and going to UniFi. We have a installations with
>> them, zero problems. But you do need a management
>> computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at
>my
>> house. The only problem is no management tool outside
>> your phone and you have to be onsite. They said they
>will
>> have something in a few months for that.
>>
>> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as
>> Meraki with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick to
>> UniFi if it was me for financial reasons if you simply
>> want to give away free internet.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gino
>Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
>> *To:* ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem
>> with reatail locations like restaurants is that you need
>> control of the users
 how much time they can browse, when
>> the AP will be available (avoiding night leeches), login
>> mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant
>> (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail
>> is a different animal
 Meraki even offers visit
>statistics
>> of how many passerbys( mac detected but not registered) ,
>> users (loged in) with how long they stayed, how
>> recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports
>> for the host restaurant/retail location
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com
>> <mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
>> *To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be
>> performing really well and at a great price as well.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White
>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of
>> environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology
>> with the coffee shop type price.
>>
>> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on
>> it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it
>> will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc...
>> computers are hardwired typically).
>>
>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>>
>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> ***@saftehnika.com
>> <mailto:***@saftehnika.com>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
><mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On
>> Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>> > To:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> >
>>
>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a
>stand alone
>> feature that
>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would
>> like the option of logging
>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>> >
>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of
>> them in my kid's
>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate
>networks,
>> one for
>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I
>> don't use the
>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still
>> controlled by a CCR
>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a
>> hiccup in over a
>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the
>enterprise
>> version as it
>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>> > >
>> > > Cameron
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince
>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Gino,
>> > >
>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and
>> which others have
>> > > you tried?
>> > >
>> > > bp
>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> > >
>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> > >> Meraki
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>> > >> President
>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >> @aeronetpr
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>"
><***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>"
><***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> > >>
>> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what
>> would be good for
>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >>
>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Darin Steffl
>>
>> Minnesota WiFi
>>
>> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>>
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on
>> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>
>>
>>
>>

--
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Josh Reynolds
2015-01-13 17:32:55 UTC
Permalink
It works great for wireless in your office along with having free but limited Wi-Fi for customers there as well. You could also demo different Wi-Fi speeds by having different SSIDs assigned to different bandwidth limits, like "6Mb"," 10Mb", etc. Good for upselling. Each UAP can broadcast up to 4 SSIDs with unique settings and controls.

On January 13, 2015 8:28:18 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>We don't do much inside a customer's network. Almost zero in fact. We
>
>leave customer internal network stuff to people that do that for a
>living.
>
>
>bp
><part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>On 1/13/2015 9:25 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> UniFi communicates out (the devices) to establish an SSL tunnel for
>> communication. No holes would need to be poked on the client site.
>>
>> This product has been out for like three years and is dirt cheap, how
>
>> have you guys not used it? :)
>>
>> On January 13, 2015 8:21:11 AM AKST, Bill Prince
><***@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like you have to poke a hole in whatever firewalls are in
>> between?
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 1/13/2015 9:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> Use one controller on a VM somewhere for all of your managed
>>> UniFi devices.
>>>
>>> That's worked since the beginning.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
><https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <***@gmail.com>
>>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:17:48 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>>
>>> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The
>individual
>>> AP's don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same
>>> LAN segment as the AP's and it will discover them and add them
>to
>>> the network.
>>>
>>> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and
>>> then take it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep
>working
>>> without being able to reach the controller.....but don't do
>>> that. If you want to change anything later you'd have to go
>back
>>> with the same laptop. If you want to associate the AP's with a
>>> different controller you have to default them.
>>>
>>> For a super small deployment I just install the controller
>>> software on the customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of
>>> AP's then you include a $300 PC in the cost estimate.
>>>
>>> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it
>>> and leave. It?
>>>
>>> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway"
>>> <***@triadwireless.net <mailto:***@triadwireless.net>>
>wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple
>>> months and going to UniFi. We have a installations with
>>> them, zero problems. But you do need a management
>>> computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at
>>> my house. The only problem is no management tool
>outside
>>> your phone and you have to be onsite. They said they
>>> will have something in a few months for that.
>>>
>>> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as
>>> Meraki with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick to
>>> UniFi if it was me for financial reasons if you simply
>>> want to give away free internet.
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gino
>Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
>>> *To:* ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem
>>> with reatail locations like restaurants is that you need
>>> control of the users
 how much time they can browse,
>when
>>> the AP will be available (avoiding night leeches), login
>>> mechanisms, value added marketing for the host
>restaurant
>>> (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc

>Retail
>>> is a different animal
 Meraki even offers visit
>>> statistics of how many passerbys( mac detected but not
>>> registered) , users (loged in) with how long they
>stayed,
>>> how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive
>>> reports for the host restaurant/retail location
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>
>>> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>>>
>>> @aeronetpr
>>>
>>> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com
>>> <mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
>>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
>>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
>>> *To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be
>>> performing really well and at a great price as well.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White
>>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of
>>> environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology
>>> with the coffee shop type price.
>>>
>>> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands
>on
>>> it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it
>>> will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc...
>>> computers are hardwired typically).
>>>
>>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>>>
>>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>>> SAF North America LLC
>>>
>>> Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
>>> Skype: danieldwhite
>>> ***@saftehnika.com
>>> <mailto:***@saftehnika.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
><mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On
>>> Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>>> > To:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>> >
>>>
>>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a
>stand
>>> alone feature that
>>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would
>>> like the option of logging
>>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>>> >
>>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20
>of
>>> them in my kid's
>>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate
>>> networks, one for
>>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I
>>> don't use the
>>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still
>>> controlled by a CCR
>>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a
>>> hiccup in over a
>>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the
>>> enterprise version as it
>>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>>> > >
>>> > > Cameron
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince
>>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Gino,
>>> > >
>>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and
>>> which others have
>>> > > you tried?
>>> > >
>>> > > bp
>>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> > >
>>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>> > >> Meraki
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>>> > >> President
>>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>>> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>>> > >> @aeronetpr
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
>>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>"
>>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>"
>>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what
>>> would be good for
>>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Darin Steffl
>>>
>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>>
>>> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>>>
>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>>
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on
>>> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Caleb Knauer
2015-01-13 17:47:28 UTC
Permalink
The system is down...the system is down...the system is down

UAP still works when it loses access to the controller unless you're using
the controller for doing the guest portal authentication/hotspot. We use
'tik and friends for all that functionality so if the controller drops it
doesn't shut down anything.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Ken Hohhof <***@kwisp.com> wrote:

> I wonder how long before we start seeing stickers identifying those
> things that still work when “the cloud” is down.
> Maybe an emergency kit of “cloud free” tools for after the apocalypse.
>
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:19 AM
> *To:* ***@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Use one controller on a VM somewhere for all of your managed UniFi
> devices.
>
> That's worked since the beginning.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:17:48 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>
> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual AP's
> don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same LAN segment as
> the AP's and it will discover them and add them to the network.
>
> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and then take
> it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working without being able
> to reach the controller.....but don't do that. If you want to change
> anything later you'd have to go back with the same laptop. If you want to
> associate the AP's with a different controller you have to default them.
>
> For a super small deployment I just install the controller software on the
> customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of AP's then you include a $300
> PC in the cost estimate.
>
> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it and leave.
> It?
> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going
>> to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero problems. But you do
>> need a management computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at
>> my house. The only problem is no management tool outside your phone and
>> you have to be onsite. They said they will have something in a few months
>> for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki with all
>> the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was me for financial
>> reasons if you simply want to give away free internet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>>
>> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with reatail
>> locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users
 how much
>> time they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night
>> leeches), login mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant
>> (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different
>> animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac
>> detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed,
>> how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the host
>> restaurant/retail location
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
>> *To: *"***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>>
>> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really
>> well and at a great price as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the
>> Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.
>>
>> Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday.
>> Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly
>> for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).
>>
>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>>
>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: (303) 746-3590 <%28303%29%20746-3590>
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> ***@saftehnika.com
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>> > To: ***@afmug.com
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> >
>>
>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone
>> feature that
>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option
>> of logging
>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>> >
>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>> > >
>> > > Cameron
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Gino,
>> > >
>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
>> > > you tried?
>> > >
>> > > bp
>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> > >
>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> > >> Meraki
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>> > >> President
>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >> @aeronetpr
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> > >>
>> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be good for
>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >>
>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Darin Steffl
>>
>> Minnesota WiFi
>>
>> www.mnwifi.com
>>
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>
>
>
>
Adam Moffett
2015-01-13 17:57:43 UTC
Permalink
Hey UBNT: Instead of scattering all the useful information around a
knowledge base and a forum, why not unify it all into one document that
describes the product and how to use it. You could call it a "manual"
and then I could RTFM whenever I want to be enlightened.

> Several different ways. DNS is one.
>
> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Controller-Installation/UniFi-Layer-3-methods-for-UAP-adoption-and-management/ta-p/455643
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
> <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> So if your controller is running on a VM in the cloud, and the
> unify box(es) is/are behind NAT, how does the controller reach
> through the NAT? Or do the unify box(es) reach out?
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/13/2015 9:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> Windows and Linux. Not sure about Mac. No, it won't run on Mikrotik.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From: *"Bill Prince" <***@gmail.com>
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>> *To: ****@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:20:22 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> Anything special about the controller? Windows, MacOS, Linux?
>> Will the controller run on a Mikrotik?
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 1/13/2015 9:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>
>>
>> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The
>> individual AP's don't have a web page. You put the
>> controller on the same LAN segment as the AP's and it will
>> discover them and add them to the network.
>>
>> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up
>> and then take it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep
>> working without being able to reach the controller.....but
>> don't do that. If you want to change anything later you'd
>> have to go back with the same laptop. If you want to
>> associate the AP's with a different controller you have to
>> default them.
>>
>> For a super small deployment I just install the controller
>> software on the customer's PC. Once you get past a handful
>> of AP's then you include a $300 PC in the cost estimate.
>>
>> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program
>> it and leave. It?
>>
>> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway"
>> <***@triadwireless.net <mailto:***@triadwireless.net>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a
>> couple months and going to UniFi. We have a
>> installations with them, zero problems. But you do
>> need a management computer. I have the XClaim radio
>> too that I tested at my house. The only problem is
>> no management tool outside your phone and you have to
>> be onsite. They said they will have something in a
>> few months for that.
>>
>> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive
>> as Meraki with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick
>> to UniFi if it was me for financial reasons if you
>> simply want to give away free internet.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gino
>> Villarini
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
>> *To:* ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set

>> problem with reatail locations like restaurants is
>> that you need control of the users
 how much time
>> they can browse, when the AP will be available
>> (avoiding night leeches), login mechanisms, value
>> added marketing for the host restaurant (like pop ups
>> every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a
>> different animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics
>> of how many passerbys( mac detected but not
>> registered) , users (loged in) with how long they
>> stayed, how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very
>> extensive reports for the host restaurant/retail
>> location
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com
>> <mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
>> *To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be
>> performing really well and at a great price as well.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White
>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of
>> environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering
>> technology with the coffee shop type price.
>>
>> Installing one in our new office... will have my
>> hands on it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and
>> of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell
>> phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).
>>
>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.
>>
>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> ***@saftehnika.com
>> <mailto:***@saftehnika.com>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
>> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>> > To:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> >
>>
>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't
>> a stand alone feature that
>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I
>> would like the option of logging
>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>> >
>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about
>> 20 of them in my kid's
>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate
>> networks, one for
>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I
>> don't use the
>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still
>> controlled by a CCR
>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as
>> a hiccup in over a
>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the
>> enterprise version as it
>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>> > >
>> > > Cameron
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince
>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Gino,
>> > >
>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and
>> which others have
>> > > you tried?
>> > >
>> > > bp
>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> > >
>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> > >> Meraki
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>> > >> President
>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >> @aeronetpr
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>"
>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>"
>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>> > >>
>> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what
>> would be good for
>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>> > >>
>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Darin Steffl
>>
>> Minnesota WiFi
>>
>> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>>
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on
>> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Josh Reynolds
2015-01-13 18:08:37 UTC
Permalink
There is a manual :)

On January 13, 2015 8:57:44 AM AKST, Adam Moffett <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hey UBNT: Instead of scattering all the useful information around a
>knowledge base and a forum, why not unify it all into one document that
>
>describes the product and how to use it. You could call it a "manual"
>and then I could RTFM whenever I want to be enlightened.
>
>> Several different ways. DNS is one.
>>
>>
>https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Controller-Installation/UniFi-Layer-3-methods-for-UAP-adoption-and-management/ta-p/455643
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> So if your controller is running on a VM in the cloud, and the
>> unify box(es) is/are behind NAT, how does the controller reach
>> through the NAT? Or do the unify box(es) reach out?
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 1/13/2015 9:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> Windows and Linux. Not sure about Mac. No, it won't run on
>Mikrotik.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
><https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Bill Prince" <***@gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>>> *To: ****@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:20:22 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> Anything special about the controller? Windows, MacOS, Linux?
>>> Will the controller run on a Mikrotik?
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 1/13/2015 9:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The
>>> individual AP's don't have a web page. You put the
>>> controller on the same LAN segment as the AP's and it will
>>> discover them and add them to the network.
>>>
>>> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up
>>> and then take it with you when you leave. The AP's will
>keep
>>> working without being able to reach the controller.....but
>>> don't do that. If you want to change anything later you'd
>>> have to go back with the same laptop. If you want to
>>> associate the AP's with a different controller you have to
>>> default them.
>>>
>>> For a super small deployment I just install the controller
>>> software on the customer's PC. Once you get past a handful
>>> of AP's then you include a $300 PC in the cost estimate.
>>>
>>> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program
>>> it and leave. It?
>>>
>>> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway"
>>> <***@triadwireless.net <mailto:***@triadwireless.net>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a
>>> couple months and going to UniFi. We have a
>>> installations with them, zero problems. But you do
>>> need a management computer. I have the XClaim radio
>>> too that I tested at my house. The only problem is
>>> no management tool outside your phone and you have
>to
>>> be onsite. They said they will have something in a
>>> few months for that.
>>>
>>> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive
>>> as Meraki with all the bells and whistles. I’d
>stick
>>> to UniFi if it was me for financial reasons if you
>>> simply want to give away free internet.
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gino
>>> Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
>>> *To:* ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set

>>> problem with reatail locations like restaurants is
>>> that you need control of the users
 how much time
>>> they can browse, when the AP will be available
>>> (avoiding night leeches), login mechanisms, value
>>> added marketing for the host restaurant (like pop
>ups
>>> every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a
>>> different animal
 Meraki even offers visit
>statistics
>>> of how many passerbys( mac detected but not
>>> registered) , users (loged in) with how long they
>>> stayed, how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very
>>> extensive reports for the host restaurant/retail
>>> location
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>
>>> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>>>
>>> @aeronetpr
>>>
>>> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com
>>> <mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
>>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
>>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
>>> *To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
>>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to
>be
>>> performing really well and at a great price as well.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White
>>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>wrote:
>>>
>>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of
>>> environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering
>>> technology with the coffee shop type price.
>>>
>>> Installing one in our new office... will have my
>>> hands on it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and
>>> of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell
>>> phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).
>>>
>>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units
>too.
>>>
>>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>>> SAF North America LLC
>>>
>>> Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
>>> Skype: danieldwhite
>>> ***@saftehnika.com
>>> <mailto:***@saftehnika.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Jay
>Weekley
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>>> > To:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>> >
>>>
>>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really
>isn't
>>> a stand alone feature that
>>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of. I
>>> would like the option of logging
>>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and moving
>on.
>>> >
>>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about
>>> 20 of them in my kid's
>>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate
>>> networks, one for
>>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for guests.
>I
>>> don't use the
>>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still
>>> controlled by a CCR
>>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so much
>as
>>> a hiccup in over a
>>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the
>>> enterprise version as it
>>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>>> > >
>>> > > Cameron
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince
>>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Gino,
>>> > >
>>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki,
>and
>>> which others have
>>> > > you tried?
>>> > >
>>> > > bp
>>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> > >
>>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>> > >> Meraki
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>>> > >> President
>>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>>> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>>> > >> @aeronetpr
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
>>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>"
>>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>"
>>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>what
>>> would be good for
>>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Darin Steffl
>>>
>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>>
>>> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>>>
>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>>
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on
>>> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Adam Moffett
2015-01-13 18:10:12 UTC
Permalink
Well butter my biscuits.

> There is a manual :)
>
> On January 13, 2015 8:57:44 AM AKST, Adam Moffett
> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey UBNT: Instead of scattering all the useful information around
> a knowledge base and a forum, why not unify it all into one
> document that describes the product and how to use it. You could
> call it a "manual" and then I could RTFM whenever I want to be
> enlightened.
>
>> Several different ways. DNS is one.
>>
>> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Controller-Installation/UniFi-Layer-3-methods-for-UAP-adoption-and-management/ta-p/455643
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Bill Prince
>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> So if your controller is running on a VM in the cloud, and
>> the unify box(es) is/are behind NAT, how does the controller
>> reach through the NAT? Or do the unify box(es) reach out?
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 1/13/2015 9:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> Windows and Linux. Not sure about Mac. No, it won't run on
>>> Mikrotik.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Bill Prince" <***@gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>>> *To: ****@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:20:22 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> Anything special about the controller? Windows, MacOS,
>>> Linux? Will the controller run on a Mikrotik?
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 1/13/2015 9:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The
>>> individual AP's don't have a web page. You put the
>>> controller on the same LAN segment as the AP's and it
>>> will discover them and add them to the network.
>>>
>>> You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set
>>> them up and then take it with you when you leave. The
>>> AP's will keep working without being able to reach the
>>> controller.....but don't do that. If you want to change
>>> anything later you'd have to go back with the same
>>> laptop. If you want to associate the AP's with a
>>> different controller you have to default them.
>>>
>>> For a super small deployment I just install the
>>> controller software on the customer's PC. Once you get
>>> past a handful of AP's then you include a $300 PC in the
>>> cost estimate.
>>>
>>> So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just
>>> program it and leave. It?
>>>
>>> On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway"
>>> <***@triadwireless.net
>>> <mailto:***@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a
>>> couple months and going to UniFi. We have a
>>> installations with them, zero problems. But you
>>> do need a management computer. I have the
>>> XClaim radio too that I tested at my house. The
>>> only problem is no management tool outside your
>>> phone and you have to be onsite. They said they
>>> will have something in a few months for that.
>>>
>>> Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as
>>> expensive as Meraki with all the bells and
>>> whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was me for
>>> financial reasons if you simply want to give
>>> away free internet.
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of
>>> *Gino Villarini
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
>>> *To:* ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set

>>> problem with reatail locations like restaurants
>>> is that you need control of the users
 how much
>>> time they can browse, when the AP will be
>>> available (avoiding night leeches), login
>>> mechanisms, value added marketing for the host
>>> restaurant (like pop ups every x min with
>>> advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different
>>> animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics of
>>> how many passerbys( mac detected but not
>>> registered) , users (loged in) with how long
>>> they stayed, how recurrently the pass or visit
>>> ect! Very extensive reports for the host
>>> restaurant/retail location
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>
>>> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>>>
>>> @aeronetpr
>>>
>>> *From: *Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com
>>> <mailto:***@mnwifi.com>>
>>> *Reply-To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
>>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
>>> *To: *"***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>"
>>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem
>>> to be performing really well and at a great
>>> price as well.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White
>>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type
>>> of environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering
>>> technology with the coffee shop type price.
>>>
>>> Installing one in our new office... will have my
>>> hands on it on Friday. Only need a single AP...
>>> and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly
>>> for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired
>>> typically).
>>>
>>> Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those
>>> units too.
>>>
>>> Daniel White – Managing Director
>>> SAF North America LLC
>>>
>>> Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
>>> Skype: danieldwhite
>>> ***@saftehnika.com
>>> <mailto:***@saftehnika.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af-***@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Jay
>>> Weekley
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
>>> > To:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>> >
>>>
>>> > The problem I have with Unifi is there really
>>> isn't a stand alone feature that
>>> > doesn't require a controller that I know of.
>>> I would like the option of logging
>>> > in locally, changing a few settings, and
>>> moving on.
>>> >
>>> > Cameron Crum wrote:
>>> > > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put
>>> about 20 of them in my kid's
>>> > > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate
>>> networks, one for
>>> > > teachers, one for students, and one for
>>> guests. I don't use the
>>> > > payments stuff of course and access is still
>>> controlled by a CCR
>>> > > behind it all, but it has not even had so
>>> much as a hiccup in over a
>>> > > year since it went in. This is not even the
>>> enterprise version as it
>>> > > was not out yet when I put the system in.
>>> > >
>>> > > Cameron
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince
>>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>>> > > <mailto:***@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Gino,
>>> > >
>>> > > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki,
>>> and which others have
>>> > > you tried?
>>> > >
>>> > > bp
>>> > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> > >
>>> > > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>> > >> Meraki
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Gino A. Villarini
>>> > >> President
>>> > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> > >> www.aeronetpr.com
>>> <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
>>> <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
>>> > >> @aeronetpr
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> From: joseph marsh
>>> <***@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>
>>> > >> <mailto:***@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>>
>>> > >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com
>>> <mailto:***@afmug.com> <mailto:***@afmug.com
>>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>" <***@afmug.com
>>> <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>>> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
>>> > >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>"
>>> <***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
>>> > >> <mailto:***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>>>
>>> > >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Doing WiFi for a
>>> restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be good for
>>> > >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Darin Steffl
>>>
>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>>
>>> www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>>>
>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>>
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us
>>> on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Gabriel Pike
2015-01-13 18:46:29 UTC
Permalink
We have done this with both unifi AP’s and CAPsMAN. Both have worked well in my opinion. With the Mikrotiks CAPsMAN the advantage is no need for a controller. Everything is done on the CAPsMAN controller router. We used a 750UP to power the mAP’s and it works fine. Only problem is people who are not experienced in Mikrotik will have problems making changes. When we used the unifi AP’s we set a static DNS entry for unifi on the Mikrotik router to our controller server. The advantage to the unifi setup is it is easier for support since everything is in a pretty GUI.







From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 1:10 PM
To: Josh Reynolds; ***@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant





Well butter my biscuits.

There is a manual :)

On January 13, 2015 8:57:44 AM AKST, Adam Moffett <mailto:***@gmail.com> <***@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey UBNT: Instead of scattering all the useful information around a knowledge base and a forum, why not unify it all into one document that describes the product and how to use it. You could call it a "manual" and then I could RTFM whenever I want to be enlightened.



Several different ways. DNS is one.



https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Controller-Installation/UniFi-Layer-3-methods-for-UAP-adoption-and-management/ta-p/455643



On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:

So if your controller is running on a VM in the cloud, and the unify box(es) is/are behind NAT, how does the controller reach through the NAT? Or do the unify box(es) reach out?




bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>


On 1/13/2015 9:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Windows and Linux. Not sure about Mac. No, it won't run on Mikrotik.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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_____


From: "Bill Prince" <mailto:***@gmail.com> <***@gmail.com>
To: ***@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:20:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Anything special about the controller? Windows, MacOS, Linux? Will the controller run on a Mikrotik?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>


On 1/13/2015 9:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:



You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual AP's don't have a web page. You put the controller on the same LAN segment as the AP's and it will discover them and add them to the network.

You could use your laptop as the "controller" to set them up and then take it with you when you leave. The AP's will keep working without being able to reach the controller.....but don't do that. If you want to change anything later you'd have to go back with the same laptop. If you want to associate the AP's with a different controller you have to default them.

For a super small deployment I just install the controller software on the customer's PC. Once you get past a handful of AP's then you include a $300 PC in the cost estimate.

So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it and leave. It?

On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, "Rory Conaway" <***@triadwireless.net> wrote:

I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero problems. But you do need a management computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at my house. The only problem is no management tool outside your phone and you have to be onsite. They said they will have something in a few months for that.



Xirrus is enterprise grade and probably as expensive as Meraki with all the bells and whistles. I’d stick to UniFi if it was me for financial reasons if you simply want to give away free internet.



Rory



From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:31 AM
To: ***@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant



I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set
 problem with reatail locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users
 how much time they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night leeches), login mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant (like pop ups every x min with advertisement) Etc
 Retail is a different animal
 Meraki even offers visit statistics of how many passerbys( mac detected but not registered) , users (loged in) with how long they stayed, how recurrently the pass or visit ect! Very extensive reports for the host restaurant/retail location







Gino A. Villarini

President

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

www.aeronetpr.com

@aeronetpr







From: Darin Steffl <***@mnwifi.com>
Reply-To: "***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:24 PM
To: "***@afmug.com" <***@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant



We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really well and at a great price as well.



On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com> wrote:

The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price.

Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell phones,etc... computers are hardwired typically).

Got mine from JR at WAV - good price on those units too.

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590>
Skype: danieldwhite
***@saftehnika.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:19 AM
> To: ***@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>

> The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone feature that
> doesn't require a controller that I know of. I would like the option of logging
> in locally, changing a few settings, and moving on.
>
> Cameron Crum wrote:
> > Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's
> > school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for
> > teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the
> > payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR
> > behind it all, but it has not even had so much as a hiccup in over a
> > year since it went in. This is not even the enterprise version as it
> > was not out yet when I put the system in.
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
> > <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Gino,
> >
> > What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have
> > you tried?
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> >> Meraki
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gino A. Villarini
> >> President
> >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> >> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com> ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2
> >> @aeronetpr
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
> >> Reply-To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM
> >> To: "***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com
> >> <mailto:***@afmug.com>>
> >> Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
> >>
> >> Doing WiFi for a restaurantï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2ï¿1Ŝ2 what would be good for
> >> deploying WiFiï¿1Ŝ2
> >>
> >> Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
> >>
> >
> >







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Seth Mattinen
2015-01-13 22:08:26 UTC
Permalink
On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.


I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you found
lacking?

~Seth
Caleb Knauer
2015-01-14 02:02:31 UTC
Permalink
5Ghz AP's are awesome until you hit the first wall, then they're all
turrible :-P

We don't really use the AC due to the initial issues (since resolved,
office ones work great now) but we use tons and tons of UAP-Pro and
they rock.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> Clients don't register sometimes and sometimes get kicked off. Coverage isn't what I hoped for on the 5GHz... but I didn't have a 5GHz AP to compare with from previous.
>
> It works well enough - the issues probably have more to do with where the AP is physically located and the "controller" I'm using.
>
> So not necessarily anything lacking - just nothing that made me go "wow this is hot s**t".
>
> But temper it with I only have one AP and I'm not overly demanding - so the system could be great in a real enterprise environment.
>
> Or maybe I'm just jaded from installing so much Ruckus back in the day :-D
>
> Daniel White
> (303) 746-3590
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:08 PM
>> To: ***@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>> > I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>
>>
>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office wireless
>> stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you found lacking?
>>
>> ~Seth
>
David Milholen
2015-01-14 12:57:34 UTC
Permalink
WAAAA.... 5Ghz dont work after going thru any obstructions. Turn the
power up.. what ever happened to WIFI amps.
I used to laugh every time I saw an amp placed at the wrong end of the
cable.

On 1/13/2015 8:02 PM, Caleb Knauer wrote:
> 5Ghz AP's are awesome until you hit the first wall, then they're all
> turrible :-P
>
> We don't really use the AC due to the initial issues (since resolved,
> office ones work great now) but we use tons and tons of UAP-Pro and
> they rock.
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Daniel White <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Clients don't register sometimes and sometimes get kicked off. Coverage isn't what I hoped for on the 5GHz... but I didn't have a 5GHz AP to compare with from previous.
>>
>> It works well enough - the issues probably have more to do with where the AP is physically located and the "controller" I'm using.
>>
>> So not necessarily anything lacking - just nothing that made me go "wow this is hot s**t".
>>
>> But temper it with I only have one AP and I'm not overly demanding - so the system could be great in a real enterprise environment.
>>
>> Or maybe I'm just jaded from installing so much Ruckus back in the day :-D
>>
>> Daniel White
>> (303) 746-3590
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:08 PM
>>> To: ***@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>>
>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office wireless
>>> stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you found lacking?
>>>
>>> ~Seth

--
Bill Prince
2015-01-20 19:18:31 UTC
Permalink
With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office this
morning. It seems to work OK.

Controller takes a century to load initially.

I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>
>
> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you found
> lacking?
>
> ~Seth
Josh Luthman
2015-01-20 19:20:35 UTC
Permalink
I used a Unifi AC for the festival last May. I have it ready for this
coming May. It held tons of people. As long as the controller doesn't
FUBAR up again this year, I'll hopefully be able to retain the guest count
and usage data!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office this
> morning. It seems to work OK.
>
> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>
> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>
>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you found
>> lacking?
>>
>> ~Seth
>>
>
>
Josh Reynolds
2015-01-20 19:40:58 UTC
Permalink
Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to manage it.

On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office this
>
>morning. It seems to work OK.
>
>Controller takes a century to load initially.
>
>I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>
>
>bp
><part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>
>>
>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you found
>
>> lacking?
>>
>> ~Seth

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Bill Prince
2015-01-20 19:48:11 UTC
Permalink
The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.

But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
memory.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to manage it.
>
> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office this
>>
>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>
>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>
>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>>
>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you found
>>> lacking?
>>>
>>> ~Seth
Josh Reynolds
2015-01-20 19:54:50 UTC
Permalink
It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.

On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
>
>I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>
>But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
>memory.
>
>bp
><part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>manage it.
>>
>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>this
>>>
>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>
>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>
>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>>>
>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>found
>>>> lacking?
>>>>
>>>> ~Seth

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Bill Prince
2015-01-21 18:58:54 UTC
Permalink
I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
running about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on
my desktop, and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not
pushed any buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.

Is this a known issue?

Not nice.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>
> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
>>
>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>
>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
>> memory.
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>> manage it.
>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>> this
>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>>
>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>>
>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>> found
>>>>> lacking?
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Seth
Jaime Solorza
2015-01-21 23:20:42 UTC
Permalink
Not that I have seen. I set them up and leave alone ...at district I would
use controller to see who was connected and block certain phones or
tablets. ..

Jaime Solorza
On Jan 21, 2015 12:35 PM, "Mike Hammett" <***@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Never heard of that problem, but most people just leave the UniFi
> controller running 24/7. No need to turn it off.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Bill Prince" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Motorola III" <***@afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:58:54 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>
> I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
> running about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on
> my desktop, and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not
> pushed any buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>
> Is this a known issue?
>
> Not nice.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> > It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
> >
> > On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
> >>
> >> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
> >> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
> >>
> >> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
> >> memory.
> >>
> >> bp
> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>
> >> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
> >> manage it.
> >>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
> >> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
> >> this
> >>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
> >>>>
> >>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
> >>>>
> >>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> bp
> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> >>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
> >>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
> >>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
> >>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
> >> found
> >>>>> lacking?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ~Seth
>
>
>
Ty Featherling
2015-01-21 19:08:06 UTC
Permalink
Wait, you had a piece of technology that was working just fine.. and you
messed with it?! Of course that introduced a problem!! LOL I haven't seen
that myself.


-Ty

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been running
> about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my desktop,
> and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
> buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>
> Is this a known issue?
>
> Not nice.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
>> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>
>> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
>>>
>>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>>
>>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
>>> memory.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>>>
>>> manage it.
>>>
>>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>>>
>>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>>>>>
>>>> this
>>>
>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>>>>>
>>>>> found
>>>
>>>> lacking?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~Seth
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
Bill Prince
2015-01-21 19:37:35 UTC
Permalink
I exited the unifi controller when I wasn't using it. Decided I wanted
to change something, so I started it up. It had just finished
initializing; I clicked the "start" button, and my partner's laptop lost
connection to WiFi.

Sounds like a bug to me.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/21/2015 11:35 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Never heard of that problem, but most people just leave the UniFi
> controller running 24/7. No need to turn it off.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Bill Prince" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Motorola III" <***@afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:58:54 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>
> I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
> running about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on
> my desktop, and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not
> pushed any buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>
> Is this a known issue?
>
> Not nice.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> > It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
> >
> > On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince
> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
> >>
> >> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
> >> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
> >>
> >> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
> >> memory.
> >>
> >> bp
> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>
> >> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
> >> manage it.
> >>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
> >> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
> >> this
> >>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
> >>>>
> >>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
> >>>>
> >>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> bp
> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> >>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
> >>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
> >>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
> >>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
> >> found
> >>>>> lacking?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ~Seth
>
>
Caleb Knauer
2015-01-21 19:49:34 UTC
Permalink
Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
minute or two?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been running
> about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my desktop,
> and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
> buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>
> Is this a known issue?
>
> Not nice.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>
>> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
>>>
>>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>>
>>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
>>> memory.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>>
>>> manage it.
>>>>
>>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>>
>>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>>>
>>> this
>>>>>
>>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>>
>>> found
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lacking?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~Seth
>
>
joseph marsh
2015-01-21 19:51:42 UTC
Permalink
Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
> minute or two?
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
> running
> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
> desktop,
> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
> >
> > Is this a known issue?
> >
> > Not nice.
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>
> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
> >>
> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
> >>>
> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
> >>>
> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
> >>> memory.
> >>>
> >>> bp
> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>
> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
> >>>
> >>> manage it.
> >>>>
> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
> >>>
> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
> >>>
> >>> this
> >>>>>
> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> bp
> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
> >>>
> >>> found
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> lacking?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ~Seth
> >
> >
>
Caleb Knauer
2015-01-21 19:53:11 UTC
Permalink
Only if you're using hotspot or guest portal authentication in the
controller. If you're just bridging with the UAP and letting
something like a mikrotik handle auth then the controller only needs
to be up for stats and config changes.

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>
> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
>> minute or two?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
>> > running
>> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
>> > desktop,
>> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
>> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>> >
>> > Is this a known issue?
>> >
>> > Not nice.
>> >
>> > bp
>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >
>> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>> >>
>> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW),
>> >>> but
>> >>>
>> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>> >>>
>> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
>> >>> memory.
>> >>>
>> >>> bp
>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>> >>>
>> >>> manage it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>> >>>
>> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>> >>>
>> >>> this
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> bp
>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>> >>>
>> >>> found
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> lacking?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ~Seth
>> >
>> >
Josh Luthman
2015-01-21 19:53:51 UTC
Permalink
No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you can
turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and such,
but it'll function like a normal AP.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
>> minute or two?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
>> running
>> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
>> desktop,
>> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
>> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>> >
>> > Is this a known issue?
>> >
>> > Not nice.
>> >
>> > bp
>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >
>> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>> >>
>> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW),
>> but
>> >>>
>> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>> >>>
>> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
>> >>> memory.
>> >>>
>> >>> bp
>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>> >>>
>> >>> manage it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>> >>>
>> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>> >>>
>> >>> this
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> bp
>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>> >>>
>> >>> found
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> lacking?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ~Seth
>> >
>> >
>>
>
joseph marsh
2015-01-21 19:59:09 UTC
Permalink
Okay
On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you can
> turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and such,
> but it'll function like a normal AP.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
>>> minute or two?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
>>> running
>>> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
>>> desktop,
>>> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
>>> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>>> >
>>> > Is this a known issue?
>>> >
>>> > Not nice.
>>> >
>>> > bp
>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >
>>> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>> >>
>>> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <
>>> ***@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW),
>>> but
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty
>>> of
>>> >>> memory.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> bp
>>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>> >>>
>>> >>> manage it.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>> >>>
>>> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>>> >>>
>>> >>> this
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> bp
>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly
>>> impressed.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic
>>> office
>>> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>> >>>
>>> >>> found
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> lacking?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> ~Seth
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>
joseph marsh
2015-01-21 20:00:43 UTC
Permalink
Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way
On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you can
> turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and such,
> but it'll function like a normal AP.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
>>> minute or two?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
>>> running
>>> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
>>> desktop,
>>> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
>>> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>>> >
>>> > Is this a known issue?
>>> >
>>> > Not nice.
>>> >
>>> > bp
>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >
>>> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>> >>
>>> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <
>>> ***@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW),
>>> but
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty
>>> of
>>> >>> memory.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> bp
>>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>> >>>
>>> >>> manage it.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>> >>>
>>> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>>> >>>
>>> >>> this
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> bp
>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly
>>> impressed.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic
>>> office
>>> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>> >>>
>>> >>> found
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> lacking?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> ~Seth
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>
Josh Luthman
2015-01-21 20:24:15 UTC
Permalink
I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for
just Unifi.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:

> One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way
> On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you
>> can turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and
>> such, but it'll function like a normal AP.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
>>>> minute or two?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
>>>> running
>>>> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
>>>> desktop,
>>>> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
>>>> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>>>> >
>>>> > Is this a known issue?
>>>> >
>>>> > Not nice.
>>>> >
>>>> > bp
>>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> >
>>>> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <
>>>> ***@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW),
>>>> but
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>>> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty
>>>> of
>>>> >>> memory.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> bp
>>>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> manage it.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> this
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> bp
>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly
>>>> impressed.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic
>>>> office
>>>> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> found
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> lacking?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> ~Seth
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Bill Prince
2015-01-21 20:03:29 UTC
Permalink
AP was not re-provisioned. She had to re-connect to continue to use
it. She said the connection just "went away". It was simple to
re-connect, just unexpected, and not what I would consider nice behavior.

I will do a couple of controlled tests to see what is happening.

BTW - We don't have any VMs running in our office; those are all down in
the colo.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/21/2015 11:49 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote:
> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
> minute or two?
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been running
>> about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my desktop,
>> and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
>> buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>>
>> Is this a known issue?
>>
>> Not nice.
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>>
>>> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
>>>>
>>>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>>>
>>>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
>>>> memory.
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>>> manage it.
>>>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>>>> this
>>>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>>>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>>> found
>>>>>>> lacking?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Seth
>>
Bill Prince
2015-01-21 20:07:07 UTC
Permalink
Run it where? The colo? That seems counter productive. We want a
more-or-less continuous VPN connection between our colo and the WiFi AP
in our office? How is this good?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/21/2015 12:04 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> So run it there.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Bill Prince" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:03:29 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> AP was not re-provisioned. She had to re-connect to continue to use
> it. She said the connection just "went away". It was simple to
> re-connect, just unexpected, and not what I would consider nice behavior.
>
> I will do a couple of controlled tests to see what is happening.
>
> BTW - We don't have any VMs running in our office; those are all down in
> the colo.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/21/2015 11:49 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote:
> > Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
> > minute or two?
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
> running
> >> about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
> desktop,
> >> and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
> >> buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
> >>
> >> Is this a known issue?
> >>
> >> Not nice.
> >>
> >> bp
> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>
> >> On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
> >>>
> >>> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince
> <***@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke
> BTW), but
> >>>>
> >>>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
> >>>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
> >>>>
> >>>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with
> plenty of
> >>>> memory.
> >>>>
> >>>> bp
> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
> >>>> manage it.
> >>>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
> >>>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
> >>>> this
> >>>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> bp
> >>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly
> impressed.
> >>>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic
> office
> >>>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
> >>>> found
> >>>>>>> lacking?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ~Seth
> >>
>
>
Ben Moore
2015-01-21 20:09:41 UTC
Permalink
Hi Bill -

I have never seen this. I have done this various times in my tests and
never had an issue. Let us know how your testing goes.

Thanks,
Ben

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> AP was not re-provisioned. She had to re-connect to continue to use it.
> She said the connection just "went away". It was simple to re-connect,
> just unexpected, and not what I would consider nice behavior.
>
> I will do a couple of controlled tests to see what is happening.
>
> BTW - We don't have any VMs running in our office; those are all down in
> the colo.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/21/2015 11:49 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote:
>
>> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
>> minute or two?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
>>> running
>>> about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
>>> desktop,
>>> and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
>>> buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>>>
>>> Is this a known issue?
>>>
>>> Not nice.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>>>> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>>>
>>>> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>>>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
>>>>> memory.
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>>>>>
>>>>> manage it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>>>>>
>>>>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> this
>>>>>
>>>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>>>>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> found
>>>>>
>>>>>> lacking?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~Seth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>
joseph marsh
2015-01-21 20:13:44 UTC
Permalink
I dont mind a PC or VM. But if power goes out its a long drive to reboot PC
and controller and I doubt the restaurant owner would do it for me
On Jan 21, 2015 1:53 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Only if you're using hotspot or guest portal authentication in the
> controller. If you're just bridging with the UAP and letting
> something like a mikrotik handle auth then the controller only needs
> to be up for stats and config changes.
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
> >
> > On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
> >> minute or two?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
> >> > running
> >> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
> >> > desktop,
> >> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
> >> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
> >> >
> >> > Is this a known issue?
> >> >
> >> > Not nice.
> >> >
> >> > bp
> >> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >> >
> >> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
> >> >>
> >> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <
> ***@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW),
> >> >>> but
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
> >> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty
> of
> >> >>> memory.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> bp
> >> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
> >> >>>
> >> >>> manage it.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
> >> >>>
> >> >>> this
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> bp
> >> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly
> impressed.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic
> office
> >> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
> >> >>>
> >> >>> found
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> lacking?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> ~Seth
> >> >
> >> >
>
Seth Mattinen
2015-01-21 20:14:19 UTC
Permalink
On 1/21/15 12:12, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Yes, run the UniFi Controller at the colo. From there you can control
> every UniFi you place everywhere.
>
> It pulls statistics, handles upgrades, well, everything a controller is
> supposed to do.
>
> It doesn't have to be in a VPN, but that's what I do.


Don't they talk to the controller over SSH anyway?

~Seth
Carlos Alcantar
2015-01-21 20:19:54 UTC
Permalink
Ruckus or Xirrus they come with the extra price tag but they are solid solutions.


Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / ***@race.com<mailto:***@race.com> / http://www.race.com<http://www.race.com/>


From: joseph marsh <***@gmail.com<mailto:***@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 6:43 AM
To: "***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>" <***@afmug.com<mailto:***@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant


Doing WiFi for a restaurant what would be good for deploying WiFi

Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?
Josh Luthman
2015-01-21 20:23:37 UTC
Permalink
I'd suggest getting one of their $200 NVRs and setting it up in your NOC.
Put it on a public IP. This way you can do all your work from there and
not lose anything. It's only a one time purchase.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:13 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I dont mind a PC or VM. But if power goes out its a long drive to reboot
> PC and controller and I doubt the restaurant owner would do it for me
> On Jan 21, 2015 1:53 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Only if you're using hotspot or guest portal authentication in the
>> controller. If you're just bridging with the UAP and letting
>> something like a mikrotik handle auth then the controller only needs
>> to be up for stats and config changes.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>> >
>> > On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
>> >> minute or two?
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
>> >> > running
>> >> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
>> >> > desktop,
>> >> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
>> >> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is this a known issue?
>> >> >
>> >> > Not nice.
>> >> >
>> >> > bp
>> >> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >> >
>> >> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <
>> ***@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW),
>> >> >>> but
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>> >> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with
>> plenty of
>> >> >>> memory.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> bp
>> >> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> manage it.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our
>> office
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> this
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> bp
>> >> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly
>> impressed.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic
>> office
>> >> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> found
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> lacking?
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> ~Seth
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>
Josh Baird
2015-01-21 23:15:20 UTC
Permalink
Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved.

> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> From: "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: ***@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for just Unifi.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>> One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> From: "joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
>> To: ***@afmug.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way
>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>> No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you can turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and such, but it'll function like a normal AP.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
>>>>> minute or two?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been running
>>>>> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my desktop,
>>>>> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
>>>>> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Is this a known issue?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Not nice.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > bp
>>>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>>>> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
>>>>> >>> memory.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> bp
>>>>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> manage it.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> this
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> bp
>>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>>>>> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> found
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> lacking?
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> ~Seth
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>
>
joseph marsh
2015-01-21 23:22:01 UTC
Permalink
Where u get the VM or vps
On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, "Josh Baird" <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved.
>
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for
> just Unifi.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way
>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you
>>> can turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and
>>> such, but it'll function like a normal AP.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>>>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
>>>>> minute or two?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
>>>>> running
>>>>> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
>>>>> desktop,
>>>>> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
>>>>> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Is this a known issue?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Not nice.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > bp
>>>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <
>>>>> ***@gmail.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke
>>>>> BTW), but
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>>>> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with
>>>>> plenty of
>>>>> >>> memory.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> bp
>>>>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> manage it.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our
>>>>> office
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> this
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> bp
>>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly
>>>>> impressed.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic
>>>>> office
>>>>> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> found
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> lacking?
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> ~Seth
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
joseph marsh
2015-01-22 02:46:20 UTC
Permalink
Mike who u recommend?
On Jan 21, 2015 8:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <***@ics-il.net> wrote:

> There are hundreds if not thousands of VM providers. Amazon is the biggest
> and Google, Microsoft, Rackspace and many others are big, but almost every
> hosting company offers them. I'm not sure of their pros\cons because I run
> my own environment.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:22:01 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Where u get the VM or vps
> On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, "Josh Baird" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved.
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>> One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for
>> just Unifi.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
>>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way
>>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you
>>>> can turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and
>>>> such, but it'll function like a normal AP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>>>>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
>>>>>> minute or two?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
>>>>>> running
>>>>>> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
>>>>>> desktop,
>>>>>> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Is this a known issue?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Not nice.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > bp
>>>>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <
>>>>>> ***@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke
>>>>>> BTW), but
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>>>>> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with
>>>>>> plenty of
>>>>>> >>> memory.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> bp
>>>>>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> manage it.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our
>>>>>> office
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> this
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> bp
>>>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly
>>>>>> impressed.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic
>>>>>> office
>>>>>> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> found
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> lacking?
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> ~Seth
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Jerry Richardson (airCloud)
2015-01-22 18:21:27 UTC
Permalink
Joseph,

Get the airControl appliance. It’s ready to go out of the box, you can install it at your office or in one of your towers. It does not matter where it is as long as it has internet and a static IP.



Jerry



From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of joseph marsh
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:46 PM
To: ***@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant



Mike who u recommend?

On Jan 21, 2015 8:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <***@ics-il.net <mailto:***@ics-il.net> > wrote:

There are hundreds if not thousands of VM providers. Amazon is the biggest and Google, Microsoft, Rackspace and many others are big, but almost every hosting company offers them. I'm not sure of their pros\cons because I run my own environment.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




_____


From: "joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> >
To: ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:22:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Where u get the VM or vps

On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, "Josh Baird" <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved.


On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net <mailto:***@ics-il.net> > wrote:

One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




_____


From: "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:***@imaginenetworksllc.com> >
To: ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for just Unifi.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net <mailto:***@ics-il.net> > wrote:

One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




_____


From: "joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> >
To: ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way

On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:***@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you can turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and such, but it'll function like a normal AP.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time

On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
minute or two?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been running
> about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my desktop,
> and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
> buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>
> Is this a known issue?
>
> Not nice.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>
>> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
>>>
>>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>>
>>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
>>> memory.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>>
>>> manage it.
>>>>
>>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>>
>>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>>>
>>> this
>>>>>
>>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>>
>>> found
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lacking?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~Seth
>
>
joseph marsh
2015-01-22 18:23:43 UTC
Permalink
Where is a good place to get it
On Jan 22, 2015 12:22 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <
***@aircloud.com> wrote:

> Joseph,
>
> Get the airControl appliance. It’s ready to go out of the box, you can
> install it at your office or in one of your towers. It does not matter
> where it is as long as it has internet and a static IP.
>
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph marsh
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:46 PM
> *To:* ***@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>
>
> Mike who u recommend?
>
> On Jan 21, 2015 8:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> There are hundreds if not thousands of VM providers. Amazon is the biggest
> and Google, Microsoft, Rackspace and many others are big, but almost every
> hosting company offers them. I'm not sure of their pros\cons because I run
> my own environment.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:22:01 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Where u get the VM or vps
>
> On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, "Josh Baird" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved.
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for
> just Unifi.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way
>
> On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you can
> turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and such,
> but it'll function like a normal AP.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>
> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
> minute or two?
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
> running
> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
> desktop,
> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
> >
> > Is this a known issue?
> >
> > Not nice.
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>
> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
> >>
> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
> >>>
> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
> >>>
> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
> >>> memory.
> >>>
> >>> bp
> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>
> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
> >>>
> >>> manage it.
> >>>>
> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
> >>>
> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
> >>>
> >>> this
> >>>>>
> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> bp
> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
> >>>
> >>> found
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> lacking?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ~Seth
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Jerry Richardson (airCloud)
2015-01-22 18:51:07 UTC
Permalink
Wherever you buy Ubiquity.



From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of joseph marsh
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:24 AM
To: ***@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant



Where is a good place to get it

On Jan 22, 2015 12:22 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <***@aircloud.com <mailto:***@aircloud.com> > wrote:

Joseph,

Get the airControl appliance. It’s ready to go out of the box, you can install it at your office or in one of your towers. It does not matter where it is as long as it has internet and a static IP.



Jerry



From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com <mailto:af-***@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of joseph marsh
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:46 PM
To: ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant



Mike who u recommend?

On Jan 21, 2015 8:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <***@ics-il.net <mailto:***@ics-il.net> > wrote:

There are hundreds if not thousands of VM providers. Amazon is the biggest and Google, Microsoft, Rackspace and many others are big, but almost every hosting company offers them. I'm not sure of their pros\cons because I run my own environment.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




_____


From: "joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> >
To: ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:22:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Where u get the VM or vps

On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, "Josh Baird" <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved.


On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net <mailto:***@ics-il.net> > wrote:

One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




_____


From: "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:***@imaginenetworksllc.com> >
To: ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for just Unifi.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net <mailto:***@ics-il.net> > wrote:

One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




_____


From: "joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> >
To: ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way

On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:***@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you can turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and such, but it'll function like a normal AP.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time

On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
minute or two?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been running
> about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my desktop,
> and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
> buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>
> Is this a known issue?
>
> Not nice.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>
>> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
>>>
>>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>>
>>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
>>> memory.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>>
>>> manage it.
>>>>
>>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>>
>>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>>>
>>> this
>>>>>
>>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>>
>>> found
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lacking?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~Seth
>
>
joseph marsh
2015-01-22 18:52:46 UTC
Permalink
I haven't seen the controllers as soon as I get back in office. I'll look
around at the vendors I use
On Jan 22, 2015 12:51 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <
***@aircloud.com> wrote:

> Wherever you buy Ubiquity.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph marsh
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:24 AM
> *To:* ***@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>
>
> Where is a good place to get it
>
> On Jan 22, 2015 12:22 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <
> ***@aircloud.com> wrote:
>
> Joseph,
>
> Get the airControl appliance. It’s ready to go out of the box, you can
> install it at your office or in one of your towers. It does not matter
> where it is as long as it has internet and a static IP.
>
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph marsh
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:46 PM
> *To:* ***@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>
>
> Mike who u recommend?
>
> On Jan 21, 2015 8:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> There are hundreds if not thousands of VM providers. Amazon is the biggest
> and Google, Microsoft, Rackspace and many others are big, but almost every
> hosting company offers them. I'm not sure of their pros\cons because I run
> my own environment.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:22:01 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Where u get the VM or vps
>
> On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, "Josh Baird" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved.
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for
> just Unifi.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way
>
> On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you can
> turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and such,
> but it'll function like a normal AP.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>
> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
> minute or two?
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
> running
> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
> desktop,
> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
> >
> > Is this a known issue?
> >
> > Not nice.
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>
> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
> >>
> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
> >>>
> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
> >>>
> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
> >>> memory.
> >>>
> >>> bp
> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>
> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
> >>>
> >>> manage it.
> >>>>
> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
> >>>
> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
> >>>
> >>> this
> >>>>>
> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> bp
> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
> >>>
> >>> found
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> lacking?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ~Seth
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Josh Luthman
2015-01-22 18:54:44 UTC
Permalink
http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=UVC-NVR


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:52 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I haven't seen the controllers as soon as I get back in office. I'll look
> around at the vendors I use
> On Jan 22, 2015 12:51 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <
> ***@aircloud.com> wrote:
>
>> Wherever you buy Ubiquity.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph marsh
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:24 AM
>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>>
>> Where is a good place to get it
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2015 12:22 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <
>> ***@aircloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> Joseph,
>>
>> Get the airControl appliance. It’s ready to go out of the box, you can
>> install it at your office or in one of your towers. It does not matter
>> where it is as long as it has internet and a static IP.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph marsh
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:46 PM
>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike who u recommend?
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2015 8:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>> There are hundreds if not thousands of VM providers. Amazon is the
>> biggest and Google, Microsoft, Rackspace and many others are big, but
>> almost every hosting company offers them. I'm not sure of their pros\cons
>> because I run my own environment.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:22:01 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> Where u get the VM or vps
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, "Josh Baird" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>> One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for
>> just Unifi.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>> One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>
>> Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you
>> can turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and
>> such, but it'll function like a normal AP.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
>> minute or two?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
>> running
>> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
>> desktop,
>> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
>> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>> >
>> > Is this a known issue?
>> >
>> > Not nice.
>> >
>> > bp
>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >
>> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>> >>
>> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW),
>> but
>> >>>
>> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>> >>>
>> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
>> >>> memory.
>> >>>
>> >>> bp
>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>> >>>
>> >>> manage it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>> >>>
>> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>> >>>
>> >>> this
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> bp
>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>> >>>
>> >>> found
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> lacking?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ~Seth
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
Ty Featherling
2015-01-22 19:09:40 UTC
Permalink
The AirVision units will control Unifi APs?

-Ty

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Josh Luthman <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=UVC-NVR
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:52 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I haven't seen the controllers as soon as I get back in office. I'll
>> look around at the vendors I use
>> On Jan 22, 2015 12:51 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <
>> ***@aircloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Wherever you buy Ubiquity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph marsh
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:24 AM
>>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Where is a good place to get it
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2015 12:22 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <
>>> ***@aircloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Joseph,
>>>
>>> Get the airControl appliance. It’s ready to go out of the box, you can
>>> install it at your office or in one of your towers. It does not matter
>>> where it is as long as it has internet and a static IP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph marsh
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:46 PM
>>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike who u recommend?
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2015 8:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are hundreds if not thousands of VM providers. Amazon is the
>>> biggest and Google, Microsoft, Rackspace and many others are big, but
>>> almost every hosting company offers them. I'm not sure of their pros\cons
>>> because I run my own environment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
>>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:22:01 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> Where u get the VM or vps
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, "Josh Baird" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for
>>> just Unifi.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
>>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>
>>> Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you
>>> can turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and
>>> such, but it'll function like a normal AP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
>>> minute or two?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
>>> running
>>> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
>>> desktop,
>>> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
>>> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>>> >
>>> > Is this a known issue?
>>> >
>>> > Not nice.
>>> >
>>> > bp
>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >
>>> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>> >>
>>> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <
>>> ***@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW),
>>> but
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty
>>> of
>>> >>> memory.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> bp
>>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>> >>>
>>> >>> manage it.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>> >>>
>>> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>>> >>>
>>> >>> this
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> bp
>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly
>>> impressed.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic
>>> office
>>> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>> >>>
>>> >>> found
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> lacking?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> ~Seth
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Josh Luthman
2015-01-22 19:12:21 UTC
Permalink
For Unifi you just install the Unifi controller. Just use these
instructions.

http://community.ubnt.com/t5/tkb/articleprintpage/tkb-id/UniFi_Installation/article-id/24


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:

> They're just little PCs running Ubuntu or Debian.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Ty Featherling" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 1:09:40 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> The AirVision units will control Unifi APs?
>
> -Ty
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Josh Luthman <
> ***@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=UVC-NVR
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:52 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't seen the controllers as soon as I get back in office. I'll
>>> look around at the vendors I use
>>> On Jan 22, 2015 12:51 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <
>>> ***@aircloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wherever you buy Ubiquity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph marsh
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:24 AM
>>>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where is a good place to get it
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 22, 2015 12:22 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <
>>>> ***@aircloud.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Joseph,
>>>>
>>>> Get the airControl appliance. It’s ready to go out of the box, you can
>>>> install it at your office or in one of your towers. It does not matter
>>>> where it is as long as it has internet and a static IP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jerry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph marsh
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:46 PM
>>>> *To:* ***@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike who u recommend?
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2015 8:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There are hundreds if not thousands of VM providers. Amazon is the
>>>> biggest and Google, Microsoft, Rackspace and many others are big, but
>>>> almost every hosting company offers them. I'm not sure of their pros\cons
>>>> because I run my own environment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
>>>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:22:01 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>>
>>>> Where u get the VM or vps
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, "Josh Baird" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>>
>>>> I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for
>>>> just Unifi.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
>>>> *To: ****@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>>>>
>>>> Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you
>>>> can turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and
>>>> such, but it'll function like a normal AP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
>>>> minute or two?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
>>>> running
>>>> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
>>>> desktop,
>>>> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
>>>> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>>>> >
>>>> > Is this a known issue?
>>>> >
>>>> > Not nice.
>>>> >
>>>> > bp
>>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> >
>>>> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <
>>>> ***@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW),
>>>> but
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>>> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty
>>>> of
>>>> >>> memory.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> bp
>>>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> manage it.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> this
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> bp
>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly
>>>> impressed.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic
>>>> office
>>>> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> found
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> lacking?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> ~Seth
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
Jerry Richardson (airCloud)
2015-01-22 19:13:21 UTC
Permalink
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Video/Can-the-AirVision-NVR-also-be-a-Unifi-controller/td-p/496965



Read the whole thread



From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ty Featherling
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:10 AM
To: ***@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant



The AirVision units will control Unifi APs?



-Ty



On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Josh Luthman <***@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:***@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=UVC-NVR






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:52 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

I haven't seen the controllers as soon as I get back in office. I'll look around at the vendors I use

On Jan 22, 2015 12:51 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <***@aircloud.com <mailto:***@aircloud.com> > wrote:

Wherever you buy Ubiquity.



From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com <mailto:af-***@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of joseph marsh
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:24 AM
To: ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant



Where is a good place to get it

On Jan 22, 2015 12:22 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <***@aircloud.com <mailto:***@aircloud.com> > wrote:

Joseph,

Get the airControl appliance. It’s ready to go out of the box, you can install it at your office or in one of your towers. It does not matter where it is as long as it has internet and a static IP.



Jerry



From: Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com <mailto:af-***@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of joseph marsh
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:46 PM
To: ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant



Mike who u recommend?

On Jan 21, 2015 8:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <***@ics-il.net <mailto:***@ics-il.net> > wrote:

There are hundreds if not thousands of VM providers. Amazon is the biggest and Google, Microsoft, Rackspace and many others are big, but almost every hosting company offers them. I'm not sure of their pros\cons because I run my own environment.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




_____


From: "joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> >
To: ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:22:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Where u get the VM or vps

On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, "Josh Baird" <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved.


On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net <mailto:***@ics-il.net> > wrote:

One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




_____


From: "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:***@imaginenetworksllc.com> >
To: ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for just Unifi.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net <mailto:***@ics-il.net> > wrote:

One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




_____


From: "joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> >
To: ***@afmug.com <mailto:***@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way

On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:***@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you can turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and such, but it'll function like a normal AP.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time

On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
minute or two?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been running
> about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my desktop,
> and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
> buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
>
> Is this a known issue?
>
> Not nice.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
>>
>> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
>>>
>>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
>>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
>>>
>>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
>>> memory.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
>>>
>>> manage it.
>>>>
>>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
>>>
>>> <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
>>>
>>> this
>>>>>
>>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
>>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
>>>
>>> found
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lacking?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~Seth
>
>
Ty Featherling
2015-01-22 19:34:17 UTC
Permalink
Well well, I will do just that. Thanks guys.

-Ty

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) <
***@aircloud.com> wrote:

>
> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Video/Can-the-AirVision-NVR-also-be-a-Unifi-controller/td-p/496965
>
>
>
> Read the whole thread
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ty Featherling
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:10 AM
> *To:* ***@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>
>
> The AirVision units will control Unifi APs?
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Josh Luthman <
> ***@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=UVC-NVR
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:52 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I haven't seen the controllers as soon as I get back in office. I'll look
> around at the vendors I use
>
> On Jan 22, 2015 12:51 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <
> ***@aircloud.com> wrote:
>
> Wherever you buy Ubiquity.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph marsh
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:24 AM
> *To:* ***@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>
>
> Where is a good place to get it
>
> On Jan 22, 2015 12:22 PM, "Jerry Richardson (airCloud)" <
> ***@aircloud.com> wrote:
>
> Joseph,
>
> Get the airControl appliance. It’s ready to go out of the box, you can
> install it at your office or in one of your towers. It does not matter
> where it is as long as it has internet and a static IP.
>
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-***@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *joseph marsh
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:46 PM
> *To:* ***@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
>
>
> Mike who u recommend?
>
> On Jan 21, 2015 8:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> There are hundreds if not thousands of VM providers. Amazon is the biggest
> and Google, Microsoft, Rackspace and many others are big, but almost every
> hosting company offers them. I'm not sure of their pros\cons because I run
> my own environment.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:22:01 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Where u get the VM or vps
>
> On Jan 21, 2015 5:15 PM, "Josh Baird" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, just get a cheap VPS from somewhere. Problem solved.
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> One {VM provider of choice} instance for all UniFis everywhere.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:24:15 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> I don't think he has a VM cluster set up. Not worth setting up one for
> just Unifi.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett <***@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> One VM anywhere in the world with Internet access is all you need.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"joseph marsh" <***@gmail.com>
> *To: ****@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:00:43 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant
>
> Can I set up a PC at the tower and mange it that way
>
> On Jan 21, 2015 1:54 PM, "Josh Luthman" <***@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> No. You need it when you make changes only. Once it's configured you can
> turn the machine off. It obviously won't be able to do reporting and such,
> but it'll function like a normal AP.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joseph marsh <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Does the unifi require a PC to be hooked up at all time
>
> On Jan 21, 2015 1:50 PM, "Caleb Knauer" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a
> minute or two?
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been
> running
> > about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my
> desktop,
> > and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any
> > buttons, merely "started" the Unifi controller app.
> >
> > Is this a known issue?
> >
> > Not nice.
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>
> >> It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.
> >>
> >> On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince <***@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but
> >>>
> >>> I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled
> >>> around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.
> >>>
> >>> But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
> >>> memory.
> >>>
> >>> bp
> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>
> >>> On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
> >>>
> >>> manage it.
> >>>>
> >>>> On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
> >>>
> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office
> >>>
> >>> this
> >>>>>
> >>>>> morning. It seems to work OK.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Controller takes a century to load initially.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> bp
> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. Have not been overly impressed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
> >>>>>> wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
> >>>
> >>> found
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> lacking?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ~Seth
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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